linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Revert "Enable '-Werror' by default for all kernel builds"

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Message-ID: <YT8d5a6ZVW7JlsRl@kroah.com>
Date:   Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:46:13 +0200
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:     Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        llvm@...ts.linux.dev,
        LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-toolchains@...r.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
        Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@...gle.com>,
        Chris Down <chris@...isdown.name>,
        Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Enable '-Werror' by default for all kernel
 builds"

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:32:56AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > >>  config WERROR
> > >>         bool "Compile the kernel with warnings as errors"
> > >>-       default y
> > >>+       default COMPILE_TEST
> > >
> > >That seems reasonable. It very much is about build-testing.
> > 
> > That and 2 more things IMO:
> > 
> > a. having developers be responsible for build warnings, not just
> >    build errors
> > 
> > b. having maintainers merge them more like they are build errors
> >    and not just some warnings that can be overlooked.
> > 
> > I don't see enough of a. or b.  :(
> 
> Do we really want developers treat warnings as errors? When the code
> is okay but some random version of gcc dislikes it...
> 
> Plus, there's question of stable. We already get ton of churn there
> ("this fixes random warning"). WERROR will only encourage that...

I will not be backporting this patch to older stable kernels, but I
_want_ to see stable builds build with no warnings.  When we add
warnings, they are almost always things we need to fix up properly.

Over time, I have worked to reduce the number of build warnings in older
stable kernels.  For newer versions of gcc, sometimes that is
impossible, but we are close...

thanks,

greg k-h