linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] block, bfq: consider request size in bfq_asymmetric

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Date:   Wed, 15 Sep 2021 09:36:58 +0200
From:   Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@...aro.org>
To:     "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@...wei.com>
Cc:     Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        linux-block <linux-block@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, yi.zhang@...wei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] block, bfq: consider request size in
 bfq_asymmetric_scenario()



> Il giorno 7 set 2021, alle ore 13:29, yukuai (C) <yukuai3@...wei.com> ha scritto:
> 
> On 2021/08/27 1:00, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>> Il giorno 6 ago 2021, alle ore 04:08, Yu Kuai <yukuai3@...wei.com> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> There is a special case when bfq do not need to idle when more than
>>> one groups is active:
>>> 
>> Unfortunately, there is a misunderstanding here.  If more than one
>> group is active, then idling is not needed only if a lot of symmetry
>> conditions also hold:
>> - all active groups have the same weight
>> - all active groups contain the same number of active queues
> 
> Hi, Paolo
> 
> I didn't think of this contition.
> 
> It's seems that if we want to idle when more than one group is active,
> there are two additional conditions:
> 
> - all dispatched requests have the same size
> - all active groups contain the same number of active queues
> 

Also the weights and the I/O priorities of the queues inside the
groups needs to be controlled, unfortunately.

> Thus we still need to track how many queues are active in each group.
> The conditions seems to be too much, do you think is it worth it to
> add support to idle when more than one group is active?
> 

I think I see your point.  The problem is that these states are
dynamic.  So, if we suspend tracking all the above information while
more than one group is active, then we are with no state in case only
one group remains active.

Thanks,
Paolo

> Thanks
> Kuai
> 
>> - all active queues have the same weight
>> - all active queues belong to the same I/O-priority class
>> - all dispatched requests have the same size
>> Similarly, if only one group is active, then idling is not needed only
>> if the above last three conditions hold.
>> The current logic, including your changes up to your previous patch,
>> is simply ignoring the last condition above.
>> So, unfortunately, your extra information about varied request size
>> should be used in the opposite way than how you propose to use it.