linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/5] kernel/watchdog: adapt the watchdog

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Message-ID: <YUSpqCqA4jLboCVP@piliu.users.ipa.redhat.com>
Date:   Fri, 17 Sep 2021 22:43:52 +0800
From:   Pingfan Liu <piliu@...hat.com>
To:     Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
Cc:     Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@...aro.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
        Julien Thierry <jthierry@...hat.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
        Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@...gle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Wang Qing <wangqing@...o.com>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Santosh Sivaraj <santosh@...six.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] kernel/watchdog: adapt the watchdog_hld interface
 for async model

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:29:04AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Wed 2021-09-15 11:51:01, Pingfan Liu wrote:
> > When lockup_detector_init()->watchdog_nmi_probe(), PMU may be not ready
> > yet. E.g. on arm64, PMU is not ready until
> > device_initcall(armv8_pmu_driver_init).  And it is deeply integrated
> > with the driver model and cpuhp. Hence it is hard to push this
> > initialization before smp_init().
> > 
> > But it is easy to take an opposite approach by enabling watchdog_hld to
> > get the capability of PMU async.
> 
> This is another cryptic description. I have probably got it after
> looking at the 5th patch (was not Cc :-(
> 
> > The async model is achieved by introducing an extra parameter notifier
> > of watchdog_nmi_probe().
> 
> I would say that the code is horrible and looks too complex.
> 
> What about simply calling watchdog_nmi_probe() and
> lockup_detector_setup() once again when watchdog_nmi_probe()
> failed in lockup_detector_init()?
> 
It may work. But there is still a way to report the PMU NMI capability
to watchdog layer accurately. And the API should be extened somehow.

I am thinking something, maybe I can model in another way.
> Or do not call lockup_detector_init() at all in
> kernel_init_freeable() when PMU is not ready yet.
> 

This may be not a good choice. Since lockup_detector_init() had better
be ready as early as possible, especially before drivers.


Thanks,

	Pingfan