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Message-ID: <CAA93jw6gK9_PMa_BtabkqyZLT4Vb+x4gsADT7vU+75bucnvrAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sun, 19 Sep 2021 08:13:32 -0700
From:   Dave Taht <dave.taht@...il.com>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Ulrich Teichert <krypton@...ich-teichert.org>,
        Michael Cree <mcree@...on.net.nz>,
        Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
        Richard Henderson <rth@...ddle.net>,
        Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@...assic.park.msu.ru>,
        Matt Turner <mattst88@...il.com>,
        "James E . J . Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>,
        Helge Deller <deller@....de>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        alpha <linux-alpha@...r.kernel.org>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-parisc@...r.kernel.org, Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sparse Mailing-list <linux-sparse@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce and use absolute_pointer macro

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:01 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> Oh well. I have an odd love-hate relationship with alpha.
>
> I think it's one of the worst architectures ever designed (memory
> ordering is completely broken, and the lack of byte operations in the
> original specs were a big reason for the initial problems and eventual
> failure).
>
> But at the same time, I really did enjoy it back in the day, and it
> _was_ the first port I did, and the first truly integrated kernel
> architecture (the original Linux m68k port that preceded it was a
> "hack up and replace" job rather than "integrate")

As a side note, I loved the Alpha, too. Compared to the VMS port
I was too often working on in the 90s, having Linux run on it was
a joy, and for years I used my remaining older alpha boxes as
firewalls, trusting in the oddity of the architecture to resist
various and sundry attacks.

I retired the last one well over a decade back.

RIP.

>
>            Linus



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