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Date:   Tue, 5 Oct 2021 21:33:10 -0500
From:   Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
To:     Kelvin.Cao@...rochip.com
Cc:     kurt.schwemmer@...rosemi.com, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
        linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, kelvincao@...look.com,
        logang@...tatee.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] PCI/switchtec: Error out MRPC execution when no GAS
 access

On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 12:37:02AM +0000, Kelvin.Cao@...rochip.com wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-10-05 at 15:11 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 08:51:06PM +0000, Kelvin.Cao@...rochip.com
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-02 at 10:11 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:

> > > > I *thought* the problem was that the PCIe Memory Read failed
> > > > and the Root Complex fabricated ~0 data to complete the CPU
> > > > read.  But now I'm not sure, because it sounds like it might
> > > > be that the PCIe transaction succeeds, but it reads data that
> > > > hasn't been updated by the firmware, i.e., it reads 'in
> > > > progress' because firmware hasn't updated it to 'done'.
> > > 
> > > The original message was sort of misleading. After a firmware
> > > reset, CPU getting ~0 for the PCIe Memory Read doesn't explain
> > > the hang.  In a MRPC execution (DMA MRPC mode), the MRPC status
> > > which is located in the host memory, gets initialized by the CPU
> > > and updated/finalized by the firmware. In the situation of a
> > > firmware reset, any MRPC initiated afterwards will not get the
> > > status updated by the firmware per the reason you pointed out
> > > above (or similar, to my understanding, firmware can no longer
> > > DMA data to host memory in such cases), therefore the MRPC
> > > execution will never end.
> > 
> > I'm glad this makes sense to you, because it still doesn't to me.
> > 
> > check_access() does an MMIO read to something in BAR0.  If that
> > read returns ~0, it means either the PCIe Memory Read was
> > successful and the Switchtec device supplied ~0 data (maybe
> > because firmware has not initialized that part of the BAR) or the
> > PCIe Memory Read failed and the root complex fabricated the ~0
> > data.
> > 
> > I'd like to know which one is happening so we can clarify the
> > commit log text about "MRPC command executions hang indefinitely"
> > and "host wil fail all GAS reads."  It's not clear whether these
> > are PCIe protocol issues or driver/firmware interaction issues.
> 
> I think it's the latter case, the ~0 data was fabricated by the root
> complex, as the MMIO read in check_access() always returns ~0 until
> a reboot or a rescan happens. 

If the root complex fabricates ~0, that means a PCIe transaction
failed, i.e., the device didn't respond.  Rescan only does config
reads and writes.  Why should that cause the PCIe transactions to
magically start working?

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