linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task

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Date:   Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:42:38 +0300
From:   Vasily Averin <vvs@...tuozzo.com>
To:     Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
Cc:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@...il.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>,
        Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Cgroups <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, kernel@...nvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited
 task

On 19.10.2021 08:33, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:52 AM Vasily Averin <vvs@...tuozzo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 18.10.2021 18:07, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:27 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [restore the cc list]
>>>>
>>>> On Mon 18-10-21 15:14:26, Vasily Averin wrote:
>>>>> On 18.10.2021 14:53, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon 18-10-21 13:05:35, Vasily Averin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18.10.2021 12:04, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>>>>> Here we call try_charge_memcg() that return success and approve the allocation,
>>>>>>> however then we hit into kmem limit and fail the allocation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand this would be for the v1 kmem explicit
>>>>>> limit, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, I mean this limit.
>>>>
>>>> OK, thanks for the clarification. This is a known problem. Have a look
>>>> at I think we consider that one to 0158115f702b ("memcg, kmem: deprecate
>>>> kmem.limit_in_bytes"). We are reporting the deprecated and to-be removed
>>>> status since 2019 without any actual report sugested by the kernel
>>>> message. Maybe we should try and remove it and see whether that prompts
>>>> some pushback.
>>>
>>> Yes, I think now should be the right time to take the next step for
>>> deprecation of kmem limits:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20201118175726.2453120-1-shakeelb@google.com/
>>
>> Are you going to push it to stable kernels too?
> 
> Not really. Is there a reason I should? More exposure to catch breakage?

There is a problem: kmem limit can trigger fake global OOM.
To fix it in upstream you can remove kmem controller.

However how to handle this problem in stable and LTS kernels?
My current patch resolves the problem too, and it can be backported.
However I afraid nobody will do it if teh patch will not be approved in upsteam.

Thank you,
	Vasily Averin