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Message-ID: <20211021201859.GX174703@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:18:59 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 11/11] context_tracking,x86: Fix text_poke_sync()
vs NOHZ_FULL
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 04:57:09PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > Pretty much everything in noinstr is magical, we just have to think
> > harder there (and possibly start writing more comments there).
>
> mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers happens after sync_core, in your patchset,
> if i am not mistaken.
Of course it does, mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers() is on exit, the
sync_core() is on entry.
> > > > + /* NMI happens here and must still do/finish CT_WORK_n */
> > > > + sync_core();
> > >
> > > But after the discussion with you, it seems doing the TLB checking
> > > and (also sync_core) checking very late/very early on exit/entry
> > > makes things easier to review.
> >
> > I don't know about late, it must happen *very* early in entry. The
> > sync_core() must happen before any self-modifying code gets called
> > (static_branch, static_call, etc..) with possible exception of the
> > context_tracking static_branch.
> >
> > The TLBi must also happen super early, possibly while still on the
> > entry stack (since the task stack is vmap'ed).
>
> But will it be ever be freed/remapped from other CPUs while the task
> is running?
Probably not, still something we need to be really careful with.
>
> > We currently don't run C
> > code on the entry stack, that needs quite a bit of careful work to make
> > happen.
>
> Was thinking of coding in ASM after (as early as possible) the write to
> switch to kernel CR3:
No, we're not going to add new feature to ASM. You'll just have to wait
until all that gets lifted to C.
> Kernel entry:
> -------------
>
> cpu = smp_processor_id();
>
> if (isolation_enabled(cpu)) {
> reqs = atomic_xchg(&percpudata->user_kernel_state, IN_KERNEL_MODE);
> if (reqs & CPU_REQ_FLUSH_TLB)
> flush_tlb_all();
> if (reqs & CPU_REQ_SYNC_CORE)
> sync_core();
> }
>
> Exit to userspace (as close to write to CR3 with user pagetable
> pointer):
> -----------------
>
> cpu = smp_processor_id();
>
> if (isolation_enabled(cpu)) {
> atomic_or(IN_USER_MODE, &percpudata->user_kernel_state);
> }
>
> You think that is a bad idea (in ASM, not C) ?
Those atomics are a bad idea and not goig to happen.
> > We're not going to add an atomic to context tracking. There is one, we
> > just got to extract/share it with RCU.
>
> Again, to avoid kernel TLB flushes you'd have to ensure:
I know how it works, but we're not going to add a second atomic to
entry/exit. RCU has one in there, that's going to be it. Again, we just
got to extract/share.
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