linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/xstate: Make AVX512 status tracking more accurate

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Message-ID: <CAFUsyf+Y76TxLnxMSfHiNqY3OOZPtBR4m_EbTcow=N65nvGdKA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:37:16 -0500
From:   Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@...il.com>
To:     Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Cc:     tglx@...utronix.de, mingo@...hat.com, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        hpa@...or.com, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/xstate: Make AVX512 status tracking more accurate

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:11 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 11:26:15AM -0500, Noah Goldstein wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/types.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/types.h
> > index f5a38a5f3ae1..cb10909fa3da 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/types.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/types.h
> > @@ -330,11 +330,21 @@ struct fpu {
> >       unsigned int                    last_cpu;
> >
> >       /*
> > -      * @avx512_timestamp:
> > +      * @avx512_ZMM_Hi256_timestamp:
> >        *
> > -      * Records the timestamp of AVX512 use during last context switch.
> > +      * Records the timestamp of AVX512 use in the ZMM_Hi256 xfeature
> > +      * set. This include zmm0...zmm15.
> >        */
> > -     unsigned long                   avx512_timestamp;
> > +     unsigned long                   avx512_ZMM_Hi256_timestamp;
> > +
> > +     /*
> > +      * @avx512_Hi16_ZMM_timestamp:
> > +      *
> > +      * Records the timestamp of AVX512 use in the Hi16_ZMM xfeature
> > +      * set. This includes usage of any of the hi16 xmm, ymm, or zmm
> > +      * registers.
> > +      */
> > +     unsigned long                   avx512_Hi16_ZMM_timestamp;
>
> No, not more of this but less.
>
> That was a bad idea to begin with as exposing this to userspace would
> cause exactly this: but but, I need to track my special use case more
> precisely.
>
> But the feature mask can't give you that precision so it'll be only an
> approximation no matter what you do.
>
> And I'm being told future cores won't have this "problem" so on them
> that file becomes actively misleading.

What I've heard is it's a lot better on Rocket Lake (only extra downclocking
on multicore usage) and TBD for Saphire Rapids.
>
> If you really wanna track performance drop precisely or AVX use or
> whatnot, there's performance counters for that which can give you
> exactly what you wanna know.
>
> So I'll take a simple patch carving out that into a function and which
> removes the opmask and otherwise let that thing die. And on future cores
> which are not affected, that thing will report only 0 anyway.

What about just splitting off a field for 'AVX512_ZMM_Hi256'? That field
seems like it can give meaningful information.

I think mostly like 'AVX512_Hi16_ZMM' will almost always be set because
GLIBC's ifunc uses EVEX implementations for all string/memory functions
on CPUs with avx512.

But if you insist will do.
>
> Thx.
>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
>     Boris.
>
> https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette