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Date:   Tue, 02 Nov 2021 15:44:30 -0400
From:   Steve Grubb <sgrubb@...hat.com>
To:     corbet@....net, axboe@...nel.dk, agk@...hat.com,
        snitzer@...hat.com, ebiggers@...nel.org, tytso@....edu,
        paul@...l-moore.com, eparis@...hat.com, jmorris@...ei.org,
        serge@...lyn.com, linux-audit@...hat.com,
        Deven Bowers <deven.desai@...ux.microsoft.com>
Cc:     linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        jannh@...gle.com, linux-fscrypt@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        dm-devel@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 07/16] ipe: add auditing support

Hello,

On Friday, October 15, 2021 3:25:47 PM EDT Deven Bowers wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 1:02 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:06:26 PM EDT
> > deven.desai@...ux.microsoft.com> 
> > wrote:
> >> Users of IPE require a way to identify when and why an operation fails,
> >> allowing them to both respond to violations of policy and be notified
> >> of potentially malicious actions on their systens with respect to IPE
> >> itself.
> > 
> > Would you mind sending examples of audit events so that we can see what
> > the end result is? Some people add them to the commit text. But we still
> > need to see what they look like.
> 
> Sure, sorry. I’ll add them to the commit description (and the documentation
> patch at the end) for v8 – In the interest of asynchronous feedback, I’ve
> copied the relevant examples:

Thanks for sending these. This helps.

 
> AUDIT1420 IPE ctx_pid=229 ctx_op=EXECUTE ctx_hook=MMAP ctx_enforce=0
> ctx_comm="grep" ctx_pathname="/usr/lib/libc-2.23.so"
> ctx_ino=532 ctx_dev=vda rule="DEFAULT op=EXECUTE action=DENY"

Question...why do all of these have a ctx_  prefix? Is it possible to trigger 
an audit context so that the audit machinery collects all of this stuff in 
it's own way? Which means you could drop everything execept op, hook, 
enforce, rule, and action.

We also have a field dictionary here:
https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-documentation/blob/main/specs/fields/
field-dictionary.csv

which names the known fields and how they should be formatted. If there is a 
collision where they are something else and cannot be in the same format, 
then we make a new name and hopefully update the dictionary. For example, if 
you are collecting a process id, use pid and not ctx_pid so that it matches a 
known definition.

Also, I don't thnk these events can stand on their own. Who did this action? 
You have the pid, but no uid, auid, or session_id.

Hope this helps...

-Steve

 
> AUDIT1420 IPE ctx_pid=229 ctx_op=EXECUTE ctx_hook=MMAP ctx_enforce=0
> ctx_comm="grep" ctx_pathname="/usr/lib/libc-2.23.so"
> ctx_ino=532 ctx_dev=vda rule="DEFAULT action=DENY"
> 
> AUDIT1420 IPE ctx_pid=253 ctx_op=EXECUTE ctx_hook=MMAP ctx_enforce=1
> ctx_comm="anon" rule="DEFAULT op=EXECUTE action=DENY"
> 
> These three audit records represent various types of results after
> evaluating
> the trust of a resource. The first two differ in the rule that was
> matched in
> IPE's policy, the first being an operation-specific default, the second
> being
> a global default. The third is an example of what is audited when anonymous
> memory is blocked (as there is no way to verify the trust of an anonymous
> page).
> 
> The remaining three events, AUDIT_TRUST_POLICY_LOAD (1421),
> AUDIT_TRUST_POLICY_ACTIVATE (1422), and AUDIT_TRUST_STATUS (1423) have this
> form:
> 
> AUDIT1421 IPE policy_name="my-policy" policy_version=0.0.0
> <hash_alg_name>=<hash>
> AUDIT1422 IPE policy_name="my-policy" policy_version=0.0.0
> <hash_alg_name>=<hash>
> AUDIT1423 IPE enforce=1
> 
> The 1421 (AUDIT_TRUST_POLICY_LOAD) event represents a new policy was loaded
> into the kernel, but not is not marked as the policy to enforce. The
> 
> The 1422 (AUDIT_TRUST_POLICY_ACTIVATE) event represents a policy that was
> already loaded was made the enforcing policy.
> 
> The 1423 (AUDIT_TRUST_STATUS) event represents a switch between
> permissive and
> enforce, it is added in 08/16 (the following patch)




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