lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <e244e3aa9fc323973d7da8d3ebc3e1fad1fdb731.camel@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 09 Nov 2021 05:23:31 -0800
From:   Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@....com>,
        Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>,
        Amit Kucheria <amitk@...nel.org>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
        Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@...el.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] thermal: netlink: Add a new event to notify CPU
 capabilities change

Hi Lukasz,

On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 12:39 +0000, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Hi Ricardo,
> 
> 
> On 11/6/21 1:33 AM, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > From: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
> > 
> > Add a new netlink event to notify change in CPU capabilities in
> > terms of
> > performance and efficiency.
> 
> Is this going to be handled by some 'generic' tools? If yes, maybe
> the values for 'performance' might be aligned with capacity
> [0,1024] ? Or are they completely not related so the mapping is
> simply impossible?
> 

That would have been very useful.

The problem is that we may not know the maximum performance as system
may be booting with few CPUs (using maxcpus kernel command line) and
then user hot adding them. So we may need to rescale when we get a new
maximum performance CPU and send to user space.

We can't just use max from HFI table at in instance as it is not
necessary that HFI table contains data for all CPUs.

If HFI max performance value of 255 is a scaled value to max
performance CPU value in the system, then this conversion would have
been easy. But that is not.



> > 
> > Firmware may change CPU capabilities as a result of thermal events
> > in the
> > system or to account for changes in the TDP (thermal design power)
> > level.
> > 
> > This notification type will allow user space to avoid running
> > workloads
> > on certain CPUs or proactively adjust power limits to avoid future
> > events.
> > 
> > Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>
> > Cc: "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Srinivas Pandruvada <  
> > srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
> > ---
> >   drivers/thermal/thermal_netlink.c | 52
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   drivers/thermal/thermal_netlink.h | 13 ++++++++
> >   include/uapi/linux/thermal.h      |  6 +++-
> >   3 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >   
> > +struct cpu_capability {
> > +       int cpu;
> > +       int perf;
> > +       int eff;

Good idea.

Thanks,
Srinivas

> 
> Why not use the full names, instead of thse shortcuts? We use full
> naming e.g. in cpufreq framework such as 'frequency' not 'freq'.
> The 'eff' is really not meaningful ('perf' a bit less but it has
> to meanings in kernel).
> 
> Regards,
> Lukasz


Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ