linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH Part2 v5 00/45] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support

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Message-ID: <YZJ9rzNOllCwvNEv@work-vm>
Date:   Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:33:03 +0000
From:   "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@...hat.com>
To:     Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>
Cc:     Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Peter Gonda <pgonda@...gle.com>,
        Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@....com>, x86@...nel.org,
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        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 v5 00/45] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP)
 Hypervisor Support

* Joerg Roedel (jroedel@...e.de) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 12:30:59PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > Still; I wonder if it's best to kill the guest - maybe it's best for
> > the host to kill the guest and leave behind diagnostics of what
> > happened; for someone debugging the crash, it's going to be less useful
> > to know that page X was wrongly accessed (which is what the guest would
> > see), and more useful to know that it was the kernel's vhost-... driver
> > that accessed it.
> 
> I is best to let the guest #VC on the page when this happens. If it
> happened because of a guest bug all necessary debugging data is in the
> guest and only the guest owner can obtain it.
> 
> Then the guest owner can do a kdump on this unexpected #VC and collect
> the data to debug the issue. With just killing the guest from the host
> side this data would be lost.

How would you debug an unexpected access by the host kernel using a
guests kdump?

Dave

> Regards,
> 
> 	Joerg
> 
-- 
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@...hat.com / Manchester, UK