linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH Part2 v5 00/45] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support

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Date:   Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:02:06 +0100
From:   Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>
To:     Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc:     "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@...hat.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
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        Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@....com>, x86@...nel.org,
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        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Tom Lendacky <Thomas.Lendacky@....com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@...cent.com>,
        Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
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        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
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        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Dov Murik <dovmurik@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@....com>,
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        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, tony.luck@...el.com,
        marcorr@...gle.com, sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 v5 00/45] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP)
 Hypervisor Support

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 06:26:16PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> No, because as Andy pointed out, host userspace must already guard against a bad
> GPA, i.e. this is just a variant of the guest telling the host to DMA to a GPA
> that is completely bogus.  The shared vs. private behavior just means that when
> host userspace is doing a GPA=>HVA lookup, it needs to incorporate the "shared"
> state of the GPA.  If the host goes and DMAs into the completely wrong HVA=>PFN,
> then that is a host bug; that the bug happened to be exploited by a buggy/malicious
> guest doesn't change the fact that the host messed up.

The thing is that the usual checking mechanisms can't be applied to
guest-private pages. For user-space the GPA is valid if it fits into the
guest memory layout user-space set up before. But whether a page is
shared or private is the guests business. And without an expensive
reporting/query mechanism user-space doesn't have the information to do
the check.

A mechanism to lock pages to shared is also needed, and that creates the
next problems:

	* Who can release the lock, only the process which created it or
	  anyone who has the memory mapped?

	* What happens when a process has locked guest regions and then
	  dies with SIGSEGV, will its locks on guest memory be released
	  stay around forever?

And this is only what comes to mind immediatly, I sure there are more
problematic details in such an interface.

Regards,

-- 
Jörg Rödel
jroedel@...e.de

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