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Date:   Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:48:14 -0800
From:   Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To:     Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>
Cc:     Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@....com>,
        Peter Gonda <pgonda@...gle.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-coco@...ts.linux.dev, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Tom Lendacky <Thomas.Lendacky@....com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@...cent.com>,
        Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Sergio Lopez <slp@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Dov Murik <dovmurik@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@....com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Michael Roth <michael.roth@....com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, tony.luck@...el.com,
        marcorr@...gle.com, sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 v5 00/45] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP)
 Hypervisor Support

On 11/24/21 8:03 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 02:51:35PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> My preference would be that we never have SEV-SNP code in the kernel
>> that can panic() the host from guest userspace.  If that means waiting
>> until there's common guest unmapping infrastructure around, then I think
>> we should wait.
> Can you elaborate how to crash host kernel from guest user-space? If I
> understood correctly it was about crashing host kernel from _host_
> user-space.

Sorry, I misspoke there.

My concern is about crashing the host kernel.  It appears that *host*
userspace can do that quite easily by inducing the host kernel to access
some guest private memory via a kernel mapping.

> I think the RMP-fault path in the page-fault handler needs to take the
> uaccess exception tables into account before actually causing a panic.
> This should solve most of the problems discussed here.

That covers things like copy_from_user().  It does not account for
things where kernel mappings are used, like where a
get_user_pages()/kmap() is in play.

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