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Date:   Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:42:39 +0100
From:   Paul Menzel <pmenzel@...gen.mpg.de>
To:     Guenter Roeck <groeck@...gle.com>,
        Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@...omium.org>
Cc:     Wolfram Sang <wsa@...nel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Tim Wawrzynczak <twawrzynczak@...omium.org>,
        coreboot@...eboot.org, Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@...il.com>,
        Felix Singer <felixsinger@...teo.net>,
        Benson Leung <bleung@...omium.org>,
        Justin TerAvest <teravest@...omium.org>,
        Guenter Roeck <groeck@...omium.org>, linux-i2c@...r.kernel.org,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, Sangwon Jee <jeesw@...fas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] CHROMIUM: i2c: Add device property for probing

Dear Guenter, dear Dmitry,


Am 21.12.21 um 17:47 schrieb Guenter Roeck:
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:49 PM Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@...omium.org> wrote:

>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:07 PM Paul Menzel <pmenzel@...gen.mpg.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Furquan Shaikh <furquan@...gle.com>

>>> Google Chromebooks are often built with devices sourced from different
>>> vendors. These need to be probed. To deal with this, the firmware – in
>>> this case coreboot – tags such optional devices accordingly – I think
>>> this is commit fbf2c79b (drivers/i2c/generic: Add config for marking
>>> device as probed) – and Chromium OS’ Linux kernel has the patch at hand
>>> applied to act accordingly. Right after the merge, Dmitry created a
>>> revert, which was actively discussed for two days but wasn’t applied.
>>> That means, millions of devices shipped with such a firmware and Linux
>>> kernel. To support these devices with upstream Linux kernel, is there an
>>> alternative to applying the patch to the Linux kernel, and to support
>>> the shipped devices?
>>
>> *sigh* I should have pushed harder, but I see it managed to
>> proliferate even into our newer kernels. Not having this patch should
>> not cause any problems, it can only hurt, because the i2c core has no
>> idea how to power up and reset the device properly. The only downside
>> of not having this patch is that we may have devices in sysfs that are
>> not connected to actual hardware. They do now cause any problems and
>> is how we have been shipping ARM-based devices where we also dual- and
>> triple-source components. However if we were to have a device that
>> switches between several addresses (let's say device in bootloader
>> mode uses 0x10 address and in normal mode 0x20) this "probing" may
>> result in device not being detected at all.

On google/sarien, the (upstream) Linux kernel sometimes detects the 
Melfas touchscreen and sometimes not, but in never works. When it’s 
detected, the errors below are still shown.

```
$ grep i2c voidlinux-linux-5.13.19-messages.txt
[    9.392598] i2c i2c-7: 2/2 memory slots populated (from DMI)
[    9.393108] i2c i2c-7: Successfully instantiated SPD at 0x50
[    9.622151] input: MELFAS MIP4 Touchscreen as 
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/i2c_designware.0/i2c-8/i2c-MLFS0000:00/input/input6
[    9.657964] cr50_i2c i2c-GOOG0005:00: cr50 TPM 2.0 (i2c 0x50 irq 114 
id 0x28)
[    9.662309] elan_i2c i2c-ELAN0000:00: supply vcc not found, using 
dummy regulator
[    9.773244] elan_i2c i2c-ELAN0000:00: Elan Touchpad: Module ID: 
0x00d6, Firmware: 0x0005, Sample: 0x0009, IAP: 0x0001
[    9.773349] input: Elan Touchpad as 
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.1/i2c_designware.1/i2c-9/i2c-ELAN0000:00/input/input7
[   10.820307] i2c_designware i2c_designware.0: controller timed out
[   10.820359] mip4_ts i2c-MLFS0000:00: mip4_i2c_xfer - i2c_transfer 
failed: -110 (-110)
[   11.844523] i2c_designware i2c_designware.0: controller timed out
[   11.844635] mip4_ts i2c-MLFS0000:00: mip4_i2c_xfer - i2c_transfer 
failed: -110 (-110)
[   12.868376] i2c_designware i2c_designware.0: controller timed out
[   12.868488] mip4_ts i2c-MLFS0000:00: mip4_i2c_xfer - i2c_transfer 
failed: -110 (-110)
[   12.868570] mip4_ts i2c-MLFS0000:00: Failed to read packet info: -110
```

Is that related to the probing stuff?

>> If we wanted to do this correctly, coreboot would have to implement
>> full power and reset control and also add drivers for I2C controllers
>> to be able to communicate with peripherals, and then adjust _STA
>> methods to report "not present" when the device is indeed absent. And
>> note that even in this case we would have issues with "morphing
>> devices", so coreboot would also need to know how to reset device out
>> of bootloader mode, and maybe flash firmware so device can work in
>> normal mode.

What do you mean by “bootloader mode”? coreboot also cannot flash 
anything. That’s up to the payload, and even there support for flashing 
is rare.

Duncan wrote something about the ACPI _STA method idea, that ASL(?) and 
I2C do not go well together.

>> However coreboot does (or did?) not want to add code to handle i2c
>> controllers, and would like to push this knowledge to the kernel. And
>> the kernel does know how to handle peripherals properly, but that
>> knowledge lies in individual drivers, not i2c core.

Excuse my ignorance, can you give an example driver? Does the Melfas 
touchscreen driver (`drivers/input/touchscreen/melfas_mip4.c`) support it?

>> We should remove "linux,probed" from coreboot and not propagate to
>> newer Chrome OS kernels, and keep it away from upstream.
> 
> Revert from chromeos-5.15 is at
> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/3350347.
> Everyone please feel free to comment there.

Guenther, thank you for your quick response. Note, that neither Furquan, 
nor Aaron, nor Duncan work at Google anymore, so won’t comment. 
Hopefully, others from the Chromium OS/coreboot folks can chime in.


Kind regards,

Paul
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