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Message-ID: <20220114002203.5dnxhnn5xydmfv43@yy-desk-7060>
Date:   Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:22:03 +0800
From:   Yuan Yao <yuan.yao@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Chao Gao <chao.gao@...el.com>
Cc:     Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@...hat.com>,
        Zeng Guang <guang.zeng@...el.com>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        "Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@...cent.com>,
        Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@....com>,
        Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>,
        Jethro Beekman <jethro@...tanix.com>,
        "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Hu, Robert" <robert.hu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 7/8] KVM: VMX: Update PID-pointer table entry when
 APIC ID is changed

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 03:45:25PM +0800, Chao Gao wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 10:31:59AM +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> >On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 16:05 +0800, Zeng Guang wrote:
> >> On 1/6/2022 10:06 PM, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> >> > On 1/5/22 7:44 PM, Zeng Guang wrote:
> >> > > On 1/6/2022 3:13 AM, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> >> > > > On 12/31/21 8:28 AM, Zeng Guang wrote:
> >> > > > Won't this blow up on AMD since there is no corresponding SVM op?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > Tom
> >> > > Right, need check ops validness to avoid ruining AMD system. Same
> >> > > consideration on ops "update_ipiv_pid_table" in patch8.
> >> > Not necessarily for patch8. That is "protected" by the
> >> > kvm_check_request(KVM_REQ_PID_TABLE_UPDATE, vcpu) test, but it couldn't hurt.
> >>
> >> OK, make sense. Thanks.
> >
> >I haven't fully reviewed this patch series yet,
> >and I will soon.
> >
> >I just want to point out few things:
>
> Thanks for pointing them out.
>
> >
> >1. AMD's AVIC also has a PID table (its calle AVIC physical ID table).
> >It stores addressses of vCPUs apic backing pages,
> >and thier real APIC IDs.
> >
> >avic_init_backing_page initializes the entry (assuming apic_id == vcpu_id)
> >(which is double confusing)
> >
> >2. For some reason KVM supports writable APIC IDs. Does anyone use these?
> >Even Intel's PRM strongly discourages users from using them and in X2APIC mode,
> >the APIC ID is read only.
> >
> >Because of this we have quite some bookkeeping in lapic.c,
> >(things like kvm_recalculate_apic_map and such)
> >
> >Also AVIC has its own handling for writes to APIC_ID,APIC_LDR,APIC_DFR
> >which tries to update its physical and logical ID tables.
>
> Intel's IPI virtualization doesn't handle logical-addressing IPIs. They cause
> APIC-write vm-exit as usual. So, this series doesn't handle APIC_LDR/DFR.
>
> >
> >(it used also to handle apic base and I removed this as apic base otherwise
> >was always hardcoded to the default vaule)
> >
> >Note that avic_handle_apic_id_update is broken - it always copies the entry
> >from the default (apicid == vcpu_id) location to new location and zeros
> >the old location, which will fail in many cases, like even if the guest
> >were to swap few apic ids.
>
> This series differs from avic_handle_apic_id_update slightly:
>
> If a vCPU's APIC ID is changed, this series zeros the old entry in PID-pointer
> table and programs the vCPU's PID to the new entry (rather than copy from the
> old entry).
>
> But this series is also problematic if guest swaps two vCPU's APIC ID without
> using another free APIC ID; it would end up one of them having no valid entry.
>
> One solution in my mind is:
>
> when a vCPU's APIC ID is changed, KVM traverses all vCPUs to count vCPUs using
> the old APIC ID and the new APIC ID, programs corrsponding entries following
> below rules:
> 1. populate an entry with a vCPU's PID if the corrsponding APIC ID is
> exclusively used by that vCPU.
> 2. zero an entry for other cases.

Don't need to traverse I think, just not zero the old entry if it's not
belong to the vcpu:

+Take new one or exist vm level lock

+if (__pa(&to_vmx(vcpu)->pi_desc) == (pid_table[old_id] & ~PID_TABLE_ENTRY_VALID))
      WRITE_ONCE(pid_table[old_id], 0);
WRITE_ONCE(pid_table[new_id], __pa(&to_vmx(vcpu)->pi_desc) |
           PID_TABLE_ENTRY_VALID);

+Release new one or exist vm level lock


>
> Proper locking is needed in this process to prevent changes to vCPUs' APIC IDs.
>
> Or if it doesn't worth it, we can disable IPI virtualization for a guest on its
> first attempt to change xAPIC ID.
>
> Let us know which option is preferred.

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