linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

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Message-ID: <c48ad8ae-aea5-43fa-882f-dccb90dde9a4@suse.de>
Date:   Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:16:22 +0100
From:   Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>
To:     Helge Deller <deller@....de>, linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org,
        dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

Hi

Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller:
> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care.
> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@....de>

First of all, thank you for stepping up to maintain the fbdev codebase. 
It really needs someone actively looking after it.

And now comes the BUT.

I want to second everything said by Danial and Javier. In addition to 
purely organizational topics (trees, PRs, etc), there are a number of 
inherit problems with fbdev.

  * It's 90s technology. Neither does it fit today's userspace, not 
hardware. If you have more than just the most trivial of graphical 
output fbdev isn't for you.

  * There's no new development in fbdev and there are no new drivers. 
Everyone works on DRM, which is better in most regards. The consequence 
is that userspace is slowly loosing the ability to use fbdev.

  * A few use-cases for efifb remain, but distributions are actively 
moving away from fbdev. I know that at least openSUSE, Fedora and Alpine 
do this.

I'd like to hear what your plans are for fbdev?

Best regards
Thomas

> 
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -7583,11 +7583,12 @@ W:	http://floatingpoint.sourceforge.net/emulator/index.html
>   F:	arch/x86/math-emu/
> 
>   FRAMEBUFFER LAYER
> -L:	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org
> +M:	Helge Deller <deller@....de>
>   L:	linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org
> -S:	Orphan
> +L:	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org
> +S:	Maintained
>   Q:	http://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-fbdev/list/
> -T:	git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
> +T:	git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/linux-fbdev.git
>   F:	Documentation/fb/
>   F:	drivers/video/
>   F:	include/linux/fb.h

-- 
Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
(HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev

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