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Message-ID: <YeZrWoQY/3dKZHfT@infradead.org>
Date:   Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:25:14 -0800
From:   Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
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        Dave Wysochanski <dwysocha@...hat.com>,
        Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@...ewreck.org>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>,
        Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@...kov.net>,
        Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@...istor.com>,
        Omar Sandoval <osandov@...ndov.com>,
        Shyam Prasad N <nspmangalore@...il.com>,
        Steve French <sfrench@...ba.org>,
        Trond Myklebust <trondmy@...merspace.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
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        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Out of order read() completion and buffer filling beyond
 returned amount

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 01:30:05PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> I think for DIO, you're sacrificing the entire buffer with any filesystem.
> If the underlying file is split across multiple drives, or is even
> just fragmented on a single drive, we'll submit multiple BIOs which
> will complete independently (even for SCSI which writes sequentially;
> never mind NVMe which can DMA blocks asynchronously).  It might be
> more apparent in a networking situation where errors are more common,
> but it's always been a possibility since Linux introduced DIO.

Yes.  Probably because of that we also never allow short reads or writes
due to I/O errrors but always fail the whole I/O.

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