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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:26:41 -0800
From: Peter Oskolkov <posk@...gle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: Peter Oskolkov <posk@...k.io>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v0.9.1 3/6] sched/umcg: implement UMCG syscalls
On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 3:47 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 09:34:49AM -0800, Peter Oskolkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:41 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> > > Also, timeout on sys_umcg_wait() gets you the exact same situation (or
> > > worse, multiple running workers).
> >
> > It should not. Timed out workers should be added to the runnable list
> > and not become running unless a server chooses so. So sys_umcg_wait()
> > with a timeout should behave similarly to a normal sleep, in that the
> > server is woken upon the worker blocking, and upon the worker wakeup
> > the worker is added to the woken workers list and waits for a server
> > to run it. The only difference is that in a sleep the worker becomes
> > BLOCKED, while in sys_umcg_wait() the worker is RUNNABLE the whole
> > time.
> >
> > Why then have sys_umcg_wait() with a timeout at all, instead of
> > calling nanosleep()? Because the worker in sys_umcg_wait() can be
> > context-switched into by another worker, or made running by a server;
> > if the worker is in nanosleep(), it just sleeps.
>
> I've been trying to figure out the semantics of that timeout thing, and
> I can't seem to make sense of it.
>
> Consider two workers:
>
> S0 running A S1 running B
>
> therefore:
>
> S0::state == RUNNABLE S1::state == RUNNABLE
> A::server_tid == S0.tid B::server_tid = S1.tid
> A::state == RUNNING B::state == RUNNING
>
> Doing:
>
> self->state = RUNNABLE; self->state = RUNNABLE;
> sys_umcg_wait(0); sys_umcg_wait(10);
> umcg_enqueue_runnable() umcg_enqueue_runnable()
sys_umcg_wait() should not enqueue the worker as runnable; workers are
enqueued to indicate wakeup events.
> umcg_wake() umcg_wake()
> umcg_wait() umcg_wait()
> hrtimer_start()
>
> In both cases we get the exact same outcome:
>
> A::state == RUNNABLE B::state == RUNNABLE
> S0::state == RUNNING S1::state == RUNNING
> S0::runnable_ptr == &A S1::runnable_ptr = &B
So without sys_umcg_wait enqueueing into the queue, the state now is
A::state == RUNNABLE B::state == RUNNABLE
S0::state == RUNNING S1::state == RUNNING
S0::runnable_ptr == NULL S1::runnable_ptr = NULL
>
>
> Which is, AFAICT, the exact state you wanted to achieve, except B now
> has an active timer, but what do you want it to do when that goes?
When the timer goes off, _then_ B is enqueued into the queue, so the
state becomes
A::state == RUNNABLE B::state == RUNNABLE
S0::state == RUNNING S1::state == RUNNING
S0::runnable_ptr == NULL S1::runnable_ptr = &B
So worker timeouts in sys_umcg_wait are treated as wakeup events, with
the difference that when the worker is eventually scheduled by a
server, sys_umcg_wait returns with ETIMEDOUT.
>
> I'm tempted to say workers cannot have timeout, and servers can use it
> to wake themselves.
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