linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] sched/tracing: Add TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT to TASK

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Message-ID: <87fspj7d3t.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
Date:   Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:13:42 -0600
From:   "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
To:     Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Uwe Kleine-König 
        <u.kleine-koenig@...gutronix.de>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Abhijeet Dharmapurikar <adharmap@...cinc.com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Alexey Gladkov <legion@...nel.org>,
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        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        Ed Tsai <ed.tsai@...iatek.com>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] sched/tracing: Add TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT to TASK_REPORT

Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com> writes:

> On 18/01/22 12:10, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com> writes:
>>>
>>> Alternatively, TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT could be masqueraded as
>>> TASK_(UN)INTERRUPTIBLE when reported to userspace - it is actually somewhat
>>> similar, unlike TASK_IDLE vs TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE for instance. The
>>> handling in get_task_state() will be fugly, but it might be preferable over
>>> exposing a detail userspace might not need to be made aware of?
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> Frequently I have seen people do a cost/benefit analysis.
>>
>> If the benefit is enough, and tracking down the userspace programs that
>> need to be verified to work with the change is inexpensive enough the
>> change is made.  Always keeping in mind that if something was missed and
>> the change causes a regression the change will need to be reverted.
>>
>> If there is little benefit or the cost to track down userspace is great
>> enough the work is put in to hide the change from userspace.  Just
>> because it is too much trouble to expose it to userspace.
>>
>> I honestly don't have any kind of sense about how hard it is to verify
>> that a userspace regression won't result from a change like this.  I
>> just know that the question needs to be asked.
>>
>
> I see it as: does it actually make sense to expose a new state? All the
> information this is conveying is: "this task took a lock that is
> substituted by a sleepable lock under PREEMPT_RT". Now that you brought
> this up, I don't really see much value in this vs just conveying that the
> task is sleeping on a lock, i.e. just report the same as if it had gone
> through rt_mutex_lock(), aka:

That seems reasonable to me.

Eric

>
> ---
> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> index d00837d12b9d..ac7b3eef4a61 100644
> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> @@ -1626,6 +1626,14 @@ static inline unsigned int __task_state_index(unsigned int tsk_state,
>  	if (tsk_state == TASK_IDLE)
>  		state = TASK_REPORT_IDLE;
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * We're lying here, but rather than expose a completely new task state
> +	 * to userspace, we can make this appear as if the task had gone through
> +	 * a regular rt_mutex_lock() call.
> +	 */
> +	if (tsk_state == TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT)
> +		state = TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE;
> +
>  	return fls(state);
>  }
>