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Message-ID: <88ea01b8-3fdd-72cc-c3d8-e2890c68533b@gmx.de>
Date:   Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:38:09 +0100
From:   Helge Deller <deller@....de>
To:     Daniel Vetter <daniel@...ll.ch>,
        Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@...hat.com>
Cc:     Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@...il.com>,
        Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andy@...nel.org>, linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@...log.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        linux-staging@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        Phillip Potter <phil@...lpotter.co.uk>,
        Carlis <zhangxuezhi1@...ong.com>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
        Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
        Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance

On 1/26/22 12:24, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18 PM Javier Martinez Canillas
> <javierm@...hat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote:
>>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that
>>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not
>>>> to be under the staging.
>>>
>>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration
>>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all
>>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM).
>>>
>>
>> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post.
>>
>> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise
>> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing.
>
> And that point was about 5 years ago, and has been discussed at some
> plumbers meanwhile, resulting in the staging TODO patches to make
> these drm drivers to destage them.
>
> Fixing bugs in fbdev is all fine, reopening it for merging new drivers is not.

We are on the same page!
I'm not at all proposing to include new drivers for (relatively) new
hardware into fbdev, which is capable to be written as DRM driver.

Helge

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