linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Clarify syntactic and semantic dependencies

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Message-ID: <YfMFQ5IZiGBRw7SH@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local>
Date:   Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:49:07 +0100
From:   Paul Heidekrüger <paul.heidekrueger@...tum.de>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@...il.com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>,
        Daniel Lustig <dlustig@...dia.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn@...nel.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Charalampos Mainas <charalampos.mainas@...il.com>,
        Pramod Bhatotia <pramod.bhatotia@...tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Clarify syntactic and semantic
 dependencies

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:04:26PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:00:22PM +0100, Paul Heidekrüger wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 04:00:11PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > That's a very abstract way of describing the situation; it doesn't do a 
> > > good job of getting the real idea across.  It also mixes up two separate 
> > > ideas: behaviors being unaffected by a syntactic dependency and 
> > > behaviors being undefined.  They should be described separately. 
> > 
> > Many thanks for the feedback! I agree, the explanation works a lot
> > better once readers have been introduced to data, addr and ctrl
> > relations. 
> > 
> > > I would prefer something along these lines...
> > 
> > Shall I resubmit the patch with you as co-developer, or, given that it's
> > arguably your work now, would you like to submit the patch yourself?
> 
> I'll submit it myself, with Suggested-by: you.  How does that sound?

Sounds good! 

Many thanks,
Paul