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Date:   Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:42:33 +0900
From:   Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Paul Heidekrüger <paul.heidekrueger@...tum.de>
Cc:     Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@...il.com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Lustig <dlustig@...dia.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn@...nel.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Charalampos Mainas <charalampos.mainas@...il.com>,
        Pramod Bhatotia <pramod.bhatotia@...tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Explain syntactic and semantic
 dependencies

Hi,

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:11:48 -0500,
Alan Stern wrote:
> Paul Heidekrüger pointed out that the Linux Kernel Memory Model
> documentation doesn't mention the distinction between syntactic and
> semantic dependencies.  This is an important difference, because the
> compiler can easily break dependencies that are only syntactic, not
> semantic.
> 
> This patch adds a few paragraphs to the LKMM documentation explaining
> these issues and illustrating how they can matter.
> 
> Suggested-by: Paul Heidekrüger <paul.heidekrueger@...tum.de>
> Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
> 
> ---
> 
> 
> [as1970]
> 
> 
>  tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt |   47 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 47 insertions(+)
> 
> Index: usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- usb-devel.orig/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> +++ usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> @@ -485,6 +485,53 @@ have R ->po X.  It wouldn't make sense f
>  somehow on a value that doesn't get loaded from shared memory until
>  later in the code!
>  
> +Here's a trick question: When is a dependency not a dependency?  Answer:
> +When it is purely syntactic rather than semantic.  We say a dependency
> +between two accesses is purely syntactic if the second access doesn't
> +actually depend on the result of the first.  Here is a trivial example:
> +
> +	r1 = READ_ONCE(x);
> +	WRITE_ONCE(y, r1 * 0);
> +
> +There appears to be a data dependency from the load of x to the store of
> +y, since the value to be stored is computed from the value that was
> +loaded.  But in fact, the value stored does not really depend on
> +anything since it will always be 0.  Thus the data dependency is only
> +syntactic (it appears to exist in the code) but not semantic (the second
> +access will always be the same, regardless of the value of the first
> +access).  Given code like this, a compiler could simply eliminate the
> +load from x, which would certainly destroy any dependency.
> +
> +(It's natural to object that no one in their right mind would write code
> +like the above.  However, macro expansions can easily give rise to this
> +sort of thing, in ways that generally are not apparent to the
> +programmer.)
> +
> +Another mechanism that can give rise to purely syntactic dependencies is
> +related to the notion of "undefined behavior".  Certain program behaviors
> +are called "undefined" in the C language specification, which means that
> +when they occur there are no guarantees at all about the outcome.
> +Consider the following example:
> +
> +	int a[1];
> +	int i;
> +
> +	r1 = READ_ONCE(i);
> +	r2 = READ_ONCE(a[r1]);
> +
> +Access beyond the end or before the beginning of an array is one kind of
> +undefined behavior.  Therefore the compiler doesn't have to worry about
> +what will happen if r1 is nonzero, and it can assume that r1 will always
> +be zero without actually loading anything from i.  (If the assumption
> +turns out to be wrong, the resulting behavior will be undefined anyway
> +so the compiler doesn't care!)  Thus the load from i can be eliminated,
> +breaking the address dependency.
> +
> +The LKMM is unaware that purely syntactic dependencies are different
> +from semantic dependencies and therefore mistakenly predicts that the
> +accesses in the two examples above will be ordered.  This is another
> +example of how the compiler can undermine the memory model.  Be warned.
> +
>  
>  THE READS-FROM RELATION: rf, rfi, and rfe
>  -----------------------------------------

FWIW,

Reviewed-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>

        Thanks, Akira

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