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Message-ID: <Yf2SNpi5847c7ceK@linutronix.de>
Date:   Fri, 4 Feb 2022 21:53:10 +0100
From:   Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@...neltoast.com>,
        Jonathan Neuschäfer <j.neuschaefer@....net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v1] random: do not take spinlocks in irq handler

On 2022-02-04 16:58:58 [+0100], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> FWIW, the biggest issue with this
> 
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:32 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@...c4.com> wrote:
> > +static void mix_interrupt_randomness(struct work_struct *work)
> > +{
> [...]
> > +       if (unlikely(crng_init == 0)) {
> > +               if (crng_fast_load((u8 *)&fast_pool->pool, sizeof(fast_pool->pool)) > 0)
> > +                       atomic_set(&fast_pool->count, 0);
> > +               else
> > +                       atomic_and(~FAST_POOL_MIX_INFLIGHT, &fast_pool->count);
> > +               return;
> > +       }
> [...]
> >  void add_interrupt_randomness(int irq)
> > -       if (unlikely(crng_init == 0)) {
> > -               if ((fast_pool->count >= 64) &&
> > -                   crng_fast_load((u8 *)fast_pool->pool, sizeof(fast_pool->pool)) > 0) {
> > -                       fast_pool->count = 0;
> > -                       fast_pool->last = now;
> > -               }
> > -               return;
> 
> The point of crng_fast_load is to shuffle bytes into the crng as fast
> as possible for very early boot usage. Deferring that to a workqueue
> seems problematic. So I think at the very least _that_ part will have
> to stay in the IRQ handler. That means we've still got a spinlock. But
> at least it's a less problematic one than the input pool spinlock, and
> perhaps we can deal with that some other way than this patch's
> approach.

RT wise we _could_ acquire that spinlock_t in IRQ context early during
boot as long as system_state < SYSTEM_SCHEDULING. After that, we could
dead lock.

> In other words, this approach for the calls to mix_pool_bytes, and a
> different approach for that call to crng_fast_load.
> 
> Jason

Sebastian

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