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Message-ID: <1ff6e06c-e563-2b9c-3196-542fed7df0f9@linux.ibm.com>
Date:   Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:43:34 -0500
From:   Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     alex.williamson@...hat.com, schnelle@...ux.ibm.com,
        farman@...ux.ibm.com, pmorel@...ux.ibm.com,
        borntraeger@...ux.ibm.com, hca@...ux.ibm.com, gor@...ux.ibm.com,
        gerald.schaefer@...ux.ibm.com, agordeev@...ux.ibm.com,
        frankja@...ux.ibm.com, david@...hat.com, imbrenda@...ux.ibm.com,
        vneethv@...ux.ibm.com, oberpar@...ux.ibm.com, freude@...ux.ibm.com,
        thuth@...hat.com, pasic@...ux.ibm.com, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 14/30] vfio/pci: re-introduce CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV

On 2/7/22 3:35 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 04 2022, Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@...ux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> This was previously removed as unnecessary; while that was true, subsequent
>> changes will make KVM an additional required component for vfio-pci-zdev.
>> Let's re-introduce CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV as now there is actually a reason
>> to say 'n' for it (when not planning to CONFIG_KVM).
> 
> Hm... can the file be split into parts that depend on KVM and parts that
> don't? Does anybody ever use vfio-pci on a non-kvm s390 system?
> 

It is possible to split out most of the prior CLP/ vfio capability work 
(but it would not be a totally clean split, zpci_group_cap for example 
would need to have an inline ifdef since it references a KVM structure) 
-- I suspect we'll see more of that in the future.
I'm not totally sure if there's value in the information being provided 
today -- this CLP information was all added specifically with 
userspace->guest delivery in mind.  And to answer your other question, 
I'm not directly aware of non-kvm vfio-pci usage on s390 today; but that 
doesn't mean there isn't any or won't be in the future of course.  With 
this series, you could CONFIG_KVM=n + CONFIG_VFIO_PCI=y|m and you'll get 
the standard vfio-pci support but never any vfio-pci-zdev extension.

If we wanted to provide everything we can where KVM isn't strictly 
required, then let's look at what a split would look like:

With or without KVM:
zcpi_base_cap
zpci_group_cap (with an inline ifdef for KVM [1])
zpci_util_cap
zpci_pfip_cap
vfio_pci_info_zdev_add_caps	
vfio_pci_zdev_open (ifdef, just return when !KVM  [1])
vfio_pci_zdev_release (ifdef, just return when !KVM [1])

KVM only:
vfio_pci_zdev_feat_interp
vfio_pci_zdev_feat_aif
vfio_pci_zdev_feat_ioat
vfio_pci_zdev_group_notifier

I suppose such a split has the benefit of flexibility / 
future-proofing...  should a non-kvm use case arrive in the future for 
s390 and we find we need some s390-specific handling, we're still 
building vfio-pci-zdev into vfio-pci by default and can just extend that.

[1] In this case I would propose renaming CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV as we 
would once again always be building some part of vfio-pci-zdev with 
vfio-pci on s390 -- maybe something like CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV_KVM (wow 
that's a mouthful) and then use this setting to check "KVM" in my above 
split.  Since this setting will imply PCI, VFIO_PCI and KVM, we can then 
s/CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV/CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV_KVM/ for the rest of the 
series (to continue covering cases like we build KVM but not pci, or not 
vfio-pci)

How does that sound?



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