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Date:   Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:36:57 +0100
From:   Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@...il.com>
To:     Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@...cle.com>
Cc:     mcgrof@...nel.org, masahiroy@...nel.org, jolsa@...nel.org,
        rostedt@...dmis.org, bas@...lab.org, tglozar@...il.com,
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        acme@...nel.org, adrian.hunter@...el.com, ak@...ux.intel.com,
        irogers@...gle.com, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-modules@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        arnd@...db.de, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, eugene.loh@...cle.com,
        kris.van.hees@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] kallsyms: new /proc/kallmodsyms with builtin modules

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 06:43:03PM +0000, Nick Alcock wrote:
> The kallmodsyms patch series was originally posted in Nov 2019, and the thread
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kbuild/20191114223036.9359-1-eugene.loh@oracle.com/t/#u)
> shows review comments, questions, and feedback from interested parties.
> 
> All review comments have been satisfied, as far as I know: in particular
> Yamada's note about translation units that are shared between built-in modules
> is satisfied with a better representation which is also much, much smaller.
> 
> A kernel tree containing this series alone, atop -rc3:
>    https://github.com/oracle/dtrace-linux-kernel kallmodsyms/5.17-rc3
> 
> Trees for trying this out, if you want to try this series in conjunction
> with its major current user:
> 
>  userspace tree for the dtrace tool itself:
>    https://github.com/oracle/dtrace-utils.git, dev branch
>  kernel tree comprising this series and a few other patches needed by
>  dtrace:
>    https://github.com/oracle/dtrace-linux-kernel, v2/5.17-rc2 branch
> 
> (See the README.md in the latter for dtrace build instructions.  Note the need for a
> reasonably recent binutils, a trunk GCC, and a cross-bpf toolchain.)
> 
> 
> /proc/kallsyms is very useful for tracers and other tools that need to
> map kernel symbols to addresses.
> 
> It would be useful if there were a mapping between kernel symbol and module
> name that only changed when the kernel source code is changed.  This mapping
> should not change simply because a module becomes built into the kernel, so
> that it's not broken by changes in user configuration.  (DTrace for Linux
> already uses the approach in this patch for this purpose.)
> 
> In brief we do this by mapping from address ranges to object files (with
> assistance from the linker map file), then mapping from object files to
> potential kernel modules. Because the number of object files is much smaller
> than the number of symbols, this is a fairly efficient representation, even with
> a bit of extra complexity to allow object files to be in more than one module at
> once.
> 
> The size impact of all of this is minimal: in one of my tests, vmlinux grew by
> 0.17% (10824 bytes), and the compressed vmlinux only grew by 0.08% (7552 bytes):
> though this is very configuration-dependent, it seems likely to scale roughly
> with the kernel as a whole.
> 
> This is all controlled by a new config parameter CONFIG_KALLMODSYMS, which when
> set results in output in /proc/kallmodsyms that looks like this:
> 
> ffffffff8b013d20 409 t pt_buffer_setup_aux
> ffffffff8b014130 11f T intel_pt_interrupt
> ffffffff8b014250 2d T cpu_emergency_stop_pt
> ffffffff8b014280 13a t rapl_pmu_event_init      [intel_rapl_perf]
> ffffffff8b0143c0 bb t rapl_event_update [intel_rapl_perf]
> ffffffff8b014480 10 t rapl_pmu_event_read       [intel_rapl_perf]
> ffffffff8b014490 a3 t rapl_cpu_offline  [intel_rapl_perf]
> ffffffff8b014540 24 t __rapl_event_show [intel_rapl_perf]
> ffffffff8b014570 f2 t rapl_pmu_event_stop       [intel_rapl_perf]

hi,
I tried this version and can't see the symbols size

[root@...u jolsa]# cat /proc/kallmodsyms | grep ksys_ | head -5
ffffffff81094720 T ksys_ioperm
ffffffff81141110 T ksys_unshare
ffffffff81160410 T ksys_setsid
ffffffff811c64b0 T ksys_sync_helper
ffffffff813213c0 T ksys_fadvise64_64

I have CONFIG_KALLMODSYMS=y, but I haven't checked if I need
anything else

jirka

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