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Message-ID: <YgZ0lyr91jw6JaHg@casper.infradead.org>
Date:   Fri, 11 Feb 2022 14:37:11 +0000
From:   Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
To:     Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>
Cc:     "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Dave Chinner <dchinner@...hat.com>,
        Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@...e.com>,
        "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>,
        Bob Peterson <rpeterso@...hat.com>,
        Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@....com>,
        Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@...hat.com>,
        Ritesh Harjani <riteshh@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Johannes Thumshirn <jth@...nel.org>, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
        cluster-devel@...hat.com,
        syzbot+0ed9f769264276638893@...kaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Revert "iomap: fall back to buffered writes for
 invalidation failures"

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:15:52AM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2022, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 08:52:43AM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > This reverts commit 60263d5889e6dc5987dc51b801be4955ff2e4aa7.
> > > 
> > > Reverting since this commit opens a potential avenue for abuse.
> > 
> > What kind of abuse?  Did you conclude there's an avenue solely because
> > some combination of userspace rigging produced a BUG warning?  Or is
> > this a real problem that someone found?
> 
> Genuine question: Is the ability for userspace to crash the kernel
> not enough to cause concern?  I would have thought that we'd want to
> prevent this.

The kernel doesn't crash.  It's a BUG().  That means it kills the
task which caused the BUG().  If you've specified that the kernel should
crash on seeing a BUG(), well, you made that decision, and you get to
live with the consequences.

> The link provided doesn't contain any further analysis.  Only the
> reproducer and kernel configuration used, which are both too large to
> enter into a Git commit.

But not too large to put in an email.  Which you should have sent to
begin with, not a stupid reversion commit.

> > OH WAIT, you're running this on the Android 5.10 kernel, aren't you?
> > The BUG report came from page_buffers failing to find any buffer heads
> > attached to the page.
> > https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/+/refs/heads/android12-5.10-2022-02/fs/ext4/inode.c#2647
> 
> Yes, the H/W I have to prototype these on is a phone and the report
> that came in was specifically built against the aforementioned
> kernel.
> 
> > Yeah, don't care.
> 
> "There is nothing to worry about, as it's intended behaviour"?

No.  You've come in like a fucking meteorite full of arrogance and
ignorance.  Nobody's reacting well to you right now.  Start again,
write a good bug report in a new thread.

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