linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH RFC v0] random: block in /dev/urandom

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Message-ID: <63afd299c8df4495b27456a7f92aec75@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date:   Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:57:05 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     'Geert Uytterhoeven' <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH RFC v0] random: block in /dev/urandom

From: Geert Uytterhoeven
> Sent: 14 February 2022 14:26
...
> I'm afraid you missed one important detail.  You wrote:
> 
> > On every platform, random_get_entropy() is connected to get_cycles(),
> > except for three: m68k, MIPS, and RISC-V.
> 
> The default implementation in include/asm-generic/timex.h is:
> 
>     static inline cycles_t get_cycles(void)
>     {
>             return 0;
>     }
> 
> Several architectures do not implement get_cycles(), or implement it
> with a variant that's very similar or identical to the generic version.

Add to the list nios2 and old x86 (I think rdtsc is a pentium instruction)
I can't see it in my 386 book, and i don't think 486 added it.

I'm not sure if/when sparc added one.
I don't remember it being there in the late 1980s.

nios2 (soft cpu on Altera/Intel fpga) is annoying.
There is a 'read control register' instruction and plenty of space ones.
But you can't define your own and one isn't a clock counter.
You can add one as the result of a custom instruction.
(Even the same custom instruction that does byteswap.)

	David

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