linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH printk v1 09/13] printk: add functions to allow direct printing

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Message-ID: <ca5b7ec96aa444c292b3413a6374028b@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date:   Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:00:46 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     'Petr Mladek' <pmladek@...e.com>,
        John Ogness <john.ogness@...utronix.de>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH printk v1 09/13] printk: add functions to allow direct
 printing

> On Mon 2022-02-07 20:49:19, John Ogness wrote:
> > Once kthread printing is introduced, console printing will no longer
> > occur in the context of the printk caller. However, there are some
> > special contexts where it is desirable for the printk caller to
> > directly print out kernel messages.

Yes - most of them.

It is going to be pretty impossible to do 'hard' kernel debugging
if printk get deferred.

Typically there already is a deferral method.
The prints aren't done by the kernel, but by syslogd.

	David

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