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Message-ID: <47c3a681-379e-18d4-86da-c48721081911@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 18 Feb 2022 11:24:38 +0100
From:   Christian König <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@...il.com>
To:     Qiang Yu <yuq825@...il.com>,
        Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>
Cc:     David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
        "Pan, Xinhui" <Xinhui.Pan@....com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        linaro-mm-sig@...ts.linaro.org, Qiang Yu <qiang.yu@....com>,
        amd-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel@...ll.ch>,
        Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@....com>,
        Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@...aro.org>,
        linux-media@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu: check vm bo eviction valuable at last

Am 18.02.22 um 11:16 schrieb Qiang Yu:
> [SNIP]
>>> If amdgpu_vm_ready() use evicting flag, it's still not equivalent to check
>>> vm idle: true -> vm idle, false -> vm may be idle or busy.
>> Yeah, but why should that be relevant?
>>
>> The amdgpu_vm_ready() return if we can do page table updates or not. If
>> the VM is idle or not is only relevant for eviction.
>>
>> In other words any CS or page table update makes the VM busy, but that
>> only affects if the VM can be evicted or not.
>>
> My point is: we can't use amdgpu_vm_ready() to replace vm_is_busy(), so
> currently we update vm even when vm is busy. So why not use:
> if (!amdgpu_vm_ready() || vm_is_busy()) return;
> in amdgpu_gem_va_update_vm(), as you mentioned we prefer to not
> update vm when it's idle.

Because updating the VM while it is busy is perfectly fine, we do it all 
the time.

We should just not update it when it is already idle and was considered 
for eviction. In this situation it makes most of the time sense to keep 
it idle and postpone the update till the next command submission.

>>>>> Then we can keep the evicting flag accurate (after solving your
>>>>> concern for this patch that eviction may fail latter by further delay
>>>>> the flag update after eviction success).
>>>> That won't work. See we need to mark the VM as evicted before we
>>>> actually evict them because otherwise somebody could use the VM in
>>>> parallel and add another fence to it.
>>>>
>>> I see, make this too accurate should cost too much like holding the
>>> eviction_lock when eviction. But just delay it in
>>> amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable()
>>> could avoid most false positive case.
>> Partially correct. Another fundamental problem is that we can't hold the
>> eviction lock because that would result in lock inversion and potential
>> deadlock.
>>
>> We could set the flag later on, but as I said before that when we set
>> the evicted flag when the VM is already idle is a desired effect.
>>
> As above, this confuse me as we can explicitly check vm idle when
> user update vm, why bother to embed it in evicting flag implicitly?

Well as I said it's irrelevant for the update if the VM is idle or not.

To summarize the rules once more:
1. When VM page tables are used by CS or page tables updates it is 
considered busy, e.g. not idle.

2. When we want to evict a VM it must be idle. As soon as we considered 
this we should set the evicted flag to make sure to keep it idle as much 
as possible.

3. When we want to update the page tables we just need to check if the 
VM is idle or not.

4. When a CS happens we don't have another chance and make the VM busy 
again. And do all postponed page table updates.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> Check vm idle need to hold resv lock. Read your patch for adding
> evicting flag is to update vm without resv lock. But user vm ops in
> amdgpu_gem_va_update_vm() do hold the resv lock, so the difference
> happens when calling amdgpu_vm_bo_update_mapping() from
> svm_range_(un)map_to_gpu(). So embed vm idle in evicting flag
> is for svm_range_(un)map_to_gpu() also do nothing when vm idle?



>
> Regards,
> Qiang
>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Qiang
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Qiang
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Qiang
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Qiang
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Qiang
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What we should rather do is to fix amdgpu_vm_ready() to take a look at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the flag instead of the linked list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Qiang Yu <qiang.yu@....com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c | 85 ++++++++++++++-----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1 file changed, 47 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>> index 5a32ee66d8c8..88a27911054f 100644
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -1306,45 +1306,11 @@ uint64_t amdgpu_ttm_tt_pte_flags(struct amdgpu_device *adev, struct ttm_tt *ttm,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             return flags;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -/*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable - Check to see if we can evict a buffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * object.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * Return true if eviction is sensible. Called by ttm_mem_evict_first() on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * behalf of ttm_bo_mem_force_space() which tries to evict buffer objects until
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * it can find space for a new object and by ttm_bo_force_list_clean() which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - * used to clean out a memory space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -static bool amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -                                         const struct ttm_place *place)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +static bool amdgpu_ttm_mem_eviction_valuable(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                                          const struct ttm_place *place)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             unsigned long num_pages = bo->resource->num_pages;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             struct amdgpu_res_cursor cursor;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     struct dma_resv_list *flist;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     struct dma_fence *f;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     int i;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     /* Swapout? */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     if (bo->resource->mem_type == TTM_PL_SYSTEM)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -             return true;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     if (bo->type == ttm_bo_type_kernel &&
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -         !amdgpu_vm_evictable(ttm_to_amdgpu_bo(bo)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -             return false;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     /* If bo is a KFD BO, check if the bo belongs to the current process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -      * If true, then return false as any KFD process needs all its BOs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -      * be resident to run successfully
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -      */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     flist = dma_resv_shared_list(bo->base.resv);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     if (flist) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -             for (i = 0; i < flist->shared_count; ++i) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -                     f = rcu_dereference_protected(flist->shared[i],
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -                             dma_resv_held(bo->base.resv));
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -                     if (amdkfd_fence_check_mm(f, current->mm))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -                             return false;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -             }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             switch (bo->resource->mem_type) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             case AMDGPU_PL_PREEMPT:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -1377,10 +1343,53 @@ static bool amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     return false;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             default:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -             break;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             return ttm_bo_eviction_valuable(bo, place);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -     return ttm_bo_eviction_valuable(bo, place);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +/*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable - Check to see if we can evict a buffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * object.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * Return true if eviction is sensible. Called by ttm_mem_evict_first() on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * behalf of ttm_bo_mem_force_space() which tries to evict buffer objects until
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * it can find space for a new object and by ttm_bo_force_list_clean() which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + * used to clean out a memory space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +static bool amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                                         const struct ttm_place *place)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     struct dma_resv_list *flist;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     struct dma_fence *f;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     int i;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     /* Swapout? */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     if (bo->resource->mem_type == TTM_PL_SYSTEM)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             return true;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     /* If bo is a KFD BO, check if the bo belongs to the current process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      * If true, then return false as any KFD process needs all its BOs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      * be resident to run successfully
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     flist = dma_resv_shared_list(bo->base.resv);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     if (flist) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             for (i = 0; i < flist->shared_count; ++i) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                     f = rcu_dereference_protected(flist->shared[i],
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                             dma_resv_held(bo->base.resv));
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                     if (amdkfd_fence_check_mm(f, current->mm))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                             return false;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     /* Check by different mem type. */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     if (!amdgpu_ttm_mem_eviction_valuable(bo, place))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             return false;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     /* VM bo should be checked at last because it will mark VM evicting. */
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     if (bo->type == ttm_bo_type_kernel)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +             return amdgpu_vm_evictable(ttm_to_amdgpu_bo(bo));
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +     return true;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         static void amdgpu_ttm_vram_mm_access(struct amdgpu_device *adev, loff_t pos,

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