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Message-ID: <op.1il2uqzhwjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl1.mshome.net>
Date:   Sun, 06 Mar 2022 07:38:40 -0600
From:   "Haitao Huang" <haitao.huang@...ux.intel.com>
To:     "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@...nel.org>
Cc:     linux-sgx@...r.kernel.org,
        "Reinette Chatre" <reinette.chatre@...el.com>,
        "Nathaniel McCallum" <nathaniel@...fian.com>,
        "Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...hat.com>, "Borislav Petkov" <bp@...en8.de>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_AUGMENT_PAGES

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 19:26:12 -0600, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>  
wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 10:27:58AM -0600, Haitao Huang wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 06:28:52 -0600, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > With SGX1 an enclave needs to be created with its maximum memory  
>> demands
>> > allocated. Pages cannot be added to an enclave after it is  
>> initialized.
>> > SGX2 introduces a new function, ENCLS[EAUG], that can be used to add
>> > pages
>> > to an initialized enclave. With SGX2 the enclave still needs to set  
>> aside
>> > address space for its maximum memory demands during enclave creation,  
>> but
>> > all pages need not be added before enclave initialization. Pages can  
>> be
>> > added during enclave runtime.
>> >
>> > Add support for dynamically adding pages to an initialized enclave  
>> with
>> > SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_AUGMENT_PAGES, which performs EAUG's to a given range  
>> of
>> > pages. Do not enforce any particular permissions from kernel, like is
>> > done
>> > for the pages added during the pre-initialization phase, as enclave
>> > controls the final permissions and content for these pages by issuing
>> > either ENCLU[EACCEPT] (empty RW) or ENCLU[EACCEPTCOPY] (arbitrary data
>> > and
>> > permissions).
>> >
>> > Explicit EAUG ioctl is a better choice than an implicit EAUG from a  
>> page
>> > fault handler because it allows to have O(1) number of kernel-enclave
>> > round
>> > trips for EAUG-EACCEPT{COPY} process, instead of O(n), as it is in the
>> > case
>> > when a page fault handler EAUG single page at a time.
>> >
>> > Cc: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@...el.com>
>> > Cc: Nathaniel McCallum <nathaniel@...fian.com>
>> > Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
>> > ---
>> > Is contained in sgx2-v2.1 branch of
>> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jarkko/linux-sgx.git
>> > ---
>> >  arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sgx.h |  14 +++
>> >  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/sgx/ioctl.c | 159  
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  2 files changed, 173 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sgx.h
>> > b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sgx.h
>> > index c4e0326d281d..2b3a606e78fe 100644
>> > --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sgx.h
>> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/sgx.h
>> > @@ -35,6 +35,8 @@ enum sgx_page_flags {
>> >  	_IOWR(SGX_MAGIC, 0x06, struct sgx_enclave_modt)
>> >  #define SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_REMOVE_PAGES \
>> >  	_IOWR(SGX_MAGIC, 0x08, struct sgx_enclave_remove_pages)
>> > +#define SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_AUGMENT_PAGES \
>> > +	_IOWR(SGX_MAGIC, 0x09, struct sgx_enclave_augment_pages)
>> > /**
>> >   * struct sgx_enclave_create - parameter structure for the
>> > @@ -138,6 +140,18 @@ struct sgx_enclave_remove_pages {
>> >  	__u64 count;
>> >  };
>> > +/**
>> > + * struct sgx_enclave_augment_pages - parameter structure for the
>> > %SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGE ioctl
>> > + * @offset:	starting page offset
>> > + * @length:	length of the data (multiple of the page size)
>> > + * @count:	number of bytes added (multiple of the page size)
>> > + */
>> > +struct sgx_enclave_augment_pages {
>> > +	__u64 offset;
>> > +	__u64 length;
>> > +	__u64 count;
>> > +};
>> > +
>>
>> As I stated in another thread, we need a mechanism to allow EAUG page
>> lazily, e.g., on #PF. Can we add a field here to indicate that?
>
> ioctl *does not* prevent lazy behaviour where, or if, it makes sense.
>
> For growing memory (e.g. MAP_GROWSDOWN) you should just take advantage of
> the vDSO's exception handling mechanism and call the ioctl on demand.
>
> For a high-performance user space you still want to be also do minimum
> round trip "batch jobs" where they are possible.
>

Looks like you are pursuing MAP_POPULATE to optimize out the O(N) trips.
Just for my understanding of your proposal in case this ever comes back.  
For the on-demand case,  this ioctl is required for for each #PF. That's  
extra round trip compared to automatic kernel EAUG on #PF.


> We exactly have the whole vDSO framework to service the on-demand needs
> while still having full control of the execution. EAUG in the #PF handler
> is all about being flakky and loosing all robustness.
>

Again, you keep saying EAUG in the #PF handler is not good. So far the  
only concrete thing I hear is extra O(N) round trips which can be  
optimized out.

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