linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 4/5] net: phy: introduce is_c45_over

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Message-ID: <Yjy+oCLdnu3FrNp+@lunn.ch>
Date:   Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:55:28 +0100
From:   Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:     Michael Walle <michael@...le.cc>
Cc:     Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Xu Liang <lxu@...linear.com>,
        Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 4/5] net: phy: introduce is_c45_over_c22 flag

> The
> > only valid case i can think of is for a very oddball PHY which has C45
> > register space, but cannot actually do C45 transfers, and so C45 over
> > C22 is the only option.
> 
> And how would you know that the PHY has the needed registers in c22
> space? Or do we assume that every C45 PHY has these registers?

I think it is a reasonable assumption at the moment. We have around
170 MDIO bus masters in Linux. All but one can do C22. There are
around 15 which can do both C22 and C45, and only one that i know of
which is C45 only. So anybody making a C45 transfer only PHY is making
their device hard to sell.

I suppose a PHY integrated with the MAC could by C45 only, and not
support C22, but i've not seen such a device yet. My guess such a
device would be an Ethernet switch, or a USB device, or maybe an
automotive device with a T1 PHY.

       Andrew