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Message-ID: <CAFd5g47E-p9V25MwAr96mZdcpr3-1cr2MZucvqYMbXqvacQeRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:36:04 -0400
From:   Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@...gle.com>
To:     Daniel Latypov <dlatypov@...gle.com>
Cc:     David Gow <davidgow@...gle.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        KUnit Development <kunit-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
        <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>,
        Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>, maxime@...no.tech
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: kunit: update kconfig options needed for
 UML coverage

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 2:58 PM 'Daniel Latypov' via KUnit Development
<kunit-dev@...glegroups.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:54 AM 'Brendan Higgins' via KUnit
> Development <kunit-dev@...glegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 12:35 PM Daniel Latypov <dlatypov@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:56 PM David Gow <davidgow@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > >         # Append coverage options to the current config
> > > > > -       $ echo -e "CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y\nCONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y\nCONFIG_GCOV=y" >> .kunit/.kunitconfig
> > > > > +       $ echo -e "CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y\nCONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y\nCONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_DWARF_TOOLCHAIN_DEFAULT=y\nCONFIG_GCOV=y" >> .kunit/.kunitconfig
> > > > >         $ ./tools/testing/kunit/kunit.py run
> > > >
> > > > Would we want to instead use a chain of --kconfig_add arguments? (I
> > > > think there are advantages either way...)
> > >
> > > I've been considering this ever since the --kconfig_add patch was accepted.
> > > It's more compatible w/ commands using --kunitconfig, but it also
> > > looks very verbose.
> > > E.g. it looks like
> > >
> > > $ tools/testing/kunit/kunit.py run --make_options=CC=/usr/bin/gcc-6
> > > --kconfig_add=CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y
> > > --kconfig_add=CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_DWARF_TOOLCHAIN_DEFAULT=y
> > > --kconfig_add=CONFIG_GCOV=y
> >
> > I don't think it's *that* much more verbose, but I see your point. I
> > personally prefer this, but not enough to argue about it.
>
> I personally prefer it too, but I'm biased as the person who added
> --kconfig_add.
> They're both ugly enough I'd figured I'd save the bikeshedding for
> another patch.
>
> >
> > > Neither looks very appealing to me, so I've just kept it as-is for now.
> > >
> > > Maybe there's something we can do to make this easier (e.g. allowing
> > > --kunitconfig to be repeated and mergable)?
> >
> > I would like --kunitconfig to be repeadable and mergable.
>
> Ack.
> There's some things to consider first.

I wasn't saying I want you to do it now. I just like the idea.

> 1. This will conflict w/
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-kselftest/patch/20220226212325.2984807-1-dlatypov@google.com/,
> so I'm going to wait until that gets merged first.

Agreed.

> 2. some kconfigs can be incompatible (e.g. these options only work on
> UML, can't combine w/ a non-UML compatible file)
> How do we make this less of a footgun?
> We'd talked about how it'd be nice if kconfig/"make olddefconfig"
> could print out *why* options get dropped (either they're not visible,
> have unmet deps, etc.). If we had that, I'd feel more comfortable w/
> repeatable kunitconfig.

Good point. Something to think about.

> 3. People have the ability to do this already if they're really sure it's safe
> $ cat <files...> | ./tools/testing/kunit/kunit.py run --kunitconfig=/dev/stdin

Sure, but I still think multiple --kunitconfig s would be a good
feature to add. I think it makes it a bit easier to think about mixing
and matching kunitconfigs.

> 4. are we committed to supporting a "uml_coverage.kunitconfig" file?
> As shown by the existence of this patch, we've let it get broken for a
> bit, at least against linux-next (afaik, it was working on
> torvalds/master up until the 5.18 window opened and we had some
> patches reworking CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO).

Good point. I don't think we want to get in that business. UML
Coverage needs a lot of work, and I don't think we have the time or
resources to own that work by ourselves.

If someone else wants to add - and then own - such a kunitconfig, I
would fully support them and maybe even help them a bit, but I don't
want to own such a file until UML coverage gets a bit more stable.

> These instructions exist so others don't have to try and re-figure out
> the steps/workarounds.
> But they're not more formally "part of KUnit" since no one has had the
> expertise to maintain it (and fix issues like the reliance on gcc-6),
> etc.
>
> Creating a kunitconfig file for this will further imply ownership.

Agreed.

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