linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH 2/3] cpupower: Introduce a new unit test module for AMD P-State driver

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Message-ID: <MN2PR12MB360098136C287C84D99FD9B6F71D9@MN2PR12MB3600.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:57:47 +0000
From:   "Meng, Li (Jassmine)" <Li.Meng@....com>
To:     Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        "Huang, Ray" <Ray.Huang@....com>,
        "linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
CC:     "Fontenot, Nathan" <Nathan.Fontenot@....com>,
        "Sharma, Deepak" <Deepak.Sharma@....com>,
        "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@....com>,
        "Limonciello, Mario" <Mario.Limonciello@....com>,
        "Su, Jinzhou (Joe)" <Jinzhou.Su@....com>,
        "Yuan, Perry" <Perry.Yuan@....com>,
        "Du, Xiaojian" <Xiaojian.Du@....com>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/3] cpupower: Introduce a new unit test module for AMD
 P-State driver

[AMD Official Use Only]

Hi Shuah:

Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions. 
We will adapt it to test our AMD P-State driver. But we haven't decided which one to adapt, kunit or kselftest.

Requirements for our unit test module:
 - It can access kernel internal structures and functions which aren't exposed to user space.
 - It is implemented through the script trigger CPU benchmark app in conjunction with the kernel module.

Therefore, next, we will study which method can meet the above requirements.
Can you give us some suggestions?

Thanks,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 10:15 PM
To: Meng, Li (Jassmine) <Li.Meng@....com>; Rafael J . Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>; Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@....com>; linux-pm@...r.kernel.org
Cc: Fontenot, Nathan <Nathan.Fontenot@....com>; Sharma, Deepak <Deepak.Sharma@....com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@....com>; Limonciello, Mario <Mario.Limonciello@....com>; Su, Jinzhou (Joe) <Jinzhou.Su@....com>; Yuan, Perry <Perry.Yuan@....com>; Du, Xiaojian <Xiaojian.Du@....com>; Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>; Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] cpupower: Introduce a new unit test module for AMD P-State driver

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On 3/23/22 1:15 AM, Meng Li wrote:
> amd-pstate-ut is a kernel module for testing the functions of AMD P-State driver.
>
> It can verify the required conditions and basic functions of AMD 
> P-State driver before integration test.
>

Can you elaborate on the need for a kernel module? It would be helpful to know tne value the mdoule adds and why it is necessary. Include details on why it can't be done as part of the user-space program.

I am not saying it isn't necssary, I would like to know the reasons before I review the patch.

Also if this is a driver test, why not use other test frameworks such as kunit or kselftest. cpupower is user-space utility and driver debug code would not belong in here.

thanks,
-- Shuah