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Date:   Tue, 5 Apr 2022 17:38:07 +0200
From:   Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...il.com>
To:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:     andrey.konovalov@...ux.dev, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@...il.com>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>,
        Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@...gle.com>,
        Peter Collingbourne <pcc@...gle.com>,
        Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@...gle.com>,
        Florian Mayer <fmayer@...gle.com>,
        Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64: implement stack_trace_save_shadow

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:32 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>
> This doesn't do any of the trampoline repatinting (e.g. for kretprobes or
> ftrace graph caller) that the regular unwinder does, so if either of those are
> in use this is going to produce bogus results.

Responded on the cover letter wrt this.

> > +noinline notrace int arch_stack_walk_shadow(unsigned long *store,
> > +                                         unsigned int size,
> > +                                         unsigned int skipnr)
> > +{
> > +     unsigned long *scs_top, *scs_base, *scs_next;
> > +     unsigned int len = 0, part;
> > +
> > +     preempt_disable();
>
> This doesn't look necessary; it's certinaly not needed for the regular unwinder.
>
> Critically, in the common case of unwinding just the task stack, we don't need
> to look at any of the per-cpu stacks, and so there's no need to disable
> preemption. See the stack nesting logic in the regular unwinder.

The common unwinder doesn't access per-cpu variables, so
preempt_disable() is not required.

Although, in this case, the per-cpu variable is read-only, so
preempt_disable() is probably also not required. Unless LOCKDEP or
some other tools complain about this.

> If we *do* need to unwind per-cpu stacks, we figure that out and verify our
> countext *at* the transition point.

I'm not sure I understand this statement. You mean we need to keep the
currently relevant SCS stack base and update it in interrupt handlers?
This will require modifying the entry code.

> > +
> > +     /* Get the SCS pointer. */
> > +     asm volatile("mov %0, x18" : "=&r" (scs_top));
>
> Does the compiler guarantee where this happens relative to any prologue
> manipulation of x18?
>
> This seems like something we should be using a compilar intrinsic for, or have
> a wrapper that passes this in if necessary.

This is a good point, I'll investigate this.

> > +
> > +     /* The top SCS slot is empty. */
> > +     scs_top -= 1;
> > +
> > +     /* Handle SDEI and hardirq frames. */
> > +     for (part = 0; part < ARRAY_SIZE(scs_parts); part++) {
> > +             scs_next = *this_cpu_ptr(scs_parts[part].saved);
> > +             if (scs_next) {
> > +                     scs_base = *this_cpu_ptr(scs_parts[part].base);
> > +                     if (walk_shadow_stack_part(scs_top, scs_base, store,
> > +                                                size, &skipnr, &len))
> > +                             goto out;
> > +                     scs_top = scs_next;
> > +             }
> > +     }
>
> We have a number of portential stack nesting orders (and may need to introduce
> more stacks in future), so I think we need to be more careful with this. The
> regular unwinder handles that dynamically.

I'll rewrite this part based on the other comments, so let's discuss it then.

Thanks!

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