linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] mm: demotion: Introduce new node state N_DEMOTION

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Message-Id: <20220413144434.6eedb827c629a3a7e08f56b6@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:44:34 -0700
From:   Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@...ux.ibm.com>
Cc:     linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        aneesh.kumar@...ux.ibm.com, baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com,
        dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com, ying.huang@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] mm: demotion: Introduce new node state
 N_DEMOTION_TARGETS

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:52:01 +0530 Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@...ux.ibm.com> wrote:

> Current implementation to find the demotion targets works
> based on node state N_MEMORY, however some systems may have
> dram only memory numa node which are N_MEMORY but not the
> right choices as demotion targets.

Why are they not the right choice?  Please describe this fully so we
can understand the motivation and end-user benefit of the proposed
change.  And please more fully describe the end-user benefits of this
change.

> This patch series introduces the new node state
> N_DEMOTION_TARGETS, which is used to distinguish the nodes which
> can be used as demotion targets, node_states[N_DEMOTION_TARGETS]
> is used to hold the list of nodes which can be used as demotion
> targets, support is also added to set the demotion target
> list from user space so that default behavior can be overridden.

Permanently extending the kernel ABI is a fairly big deal.  Please
fully explain the end-user value, usage scenarios, etc.

What would go wrong if we simply omitted this interface?

> node state N_DEMOTION_TARGETS is also set from the dax kmem
> driver, certain type of memory which registers through dax kmem
> (e.g. HBM) may not be the right choices for demotion so in future
> they should be distinguished based on certain attributes and dax
> kmem driver should avoid setting them as N_DEMOTION_TARGETS,
> however current implementation also doesn't distinguish any 
> such memory and it considers all N_MEMORY as demotion targets
> so this patch series doesn't modify the current behavior.
> 
> Current code which sets migration targets is modified in
> this patch series to avoid some of the limitations on the demotion
> target sharing and to use N_DEMOTION_TARGETS only nodes while
> finding demotion targets.
> 
> Changelog
> ----------
> 
> v2:
> In v1, only 1st patch of this patch series was sent, which was
> implemented to avoid some of the limitations on the demotion
> target sharing, however for certain numa topology, the demotion
> targets found by that patch was not most optimal, so 1st patch
> in this series is modified according to suggestions from Huang
> and Baolin. Different examples of demotion list comparasion
> between existing implementation and changed implementation can
> be found in the commit message of 1st patch.
> 
> Jagdish Gediya (5):
>   mm: demotion: Set demotion list differently
>   mm: demotion: Add new node state N_DEMOTION_TARGETS
>   mm: demotion: Add support to set targets from userspace
>   device-dax/kmem: Set node state as N_DEMOTION_TARGETS
>   mm: demotion: Build demotion list based on N_DEMOTION_TARGETS
> 
>  .../ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-mm-numa          | 12 ++++

This description is rather brief.  Some additional user-facing material
under Documentation/ would help.  Describe the format for writing to the
file, what is seen when reading from it, provide a bit of help to the
user so they can understand how to use it, what effects they might see,
etc.

>  drivers/base/node.c                           |  4 ++
>  drivers/dax/kmem.c                            |  2 +
>  include/linux/nodemask.h                      |  1 +
>  mm/migrate.c                                  | 67 +++++++++++++++----
>  5 files changed, 72 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)