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Date:   Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:39:20 +0300
From:   Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
To:     David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Varad Gautam <varad.gautam@...e.com>,
        Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@...e.com>,
        Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@....com>, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-coco@...ts.linux.dev,
        linux-efi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 1/8] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 12:36:11PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 12.04.22 18:08, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 4/12/22 01:15, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > 
> > The other option might be to tie this all to DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT.
> >  Have the rule that everything that gets a 'struct page' must be
> > accepted.  If you want to do delayed acceptance, you do it via
> > DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT.
> 
> That could also be an option, yes. At least being able to chose would be
> good. But IIRC, DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT will still make the system get
> stuck during boot and wait until everything was accepted.

The deferred page init runs multithreaded, so guest with SMP will be stuck
for less time.
 
> I see the following variants:
> 
> 1) Slow boot; after boot, all memory is already accepted.
> 2) Fast boot; after boot, all memory will slowly but steadily get
>    accepted in the background. After a while, all memory is accepted and
>    can be signaled to user space.
> 3) Fast boot; after boot, memory gets accepted on demand. This is what
>    we have in this series.
> 
> I somehow don't quite like 3), but with deferred population in the
> hypervisor, it might just make sense.

IMHO, deferred population in hypervisor will be way more complex than this
series with similar "visible" performance.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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