linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] KVM: SEV: Add cond_resched() to loop in sev_clflush

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Message-ID: <YmFuP/J01eVJ4/8+@google.com>
Date:   Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:46:23 +0000
From:   Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To:     Peter Gonda <pgonda@...gle.com>
Cc:     Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>, kvm <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: SEV: Add cond_resched() to loop in
 sev_clflush_pages()

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, Peter Gonda wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 9:48 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 06, 2022, Peter Gonda wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:26 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2022, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sean,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > > > > index 75fa6dd268f0..c2fe89ecdb2d 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -465,6 +465,7 @@ static void sev_clflush_pages(struct page *pages[], unsigned long npages)
> > > > > > > >                 page_virtual = kmap_atomic(pages[i]);
> > > > > > > >                 clflush_cache_range(page_virtual, PAGE_SIZE);
> > > > > > > >                 kunmap_atomic(page_virtual);
> > > > > > > > +               cond_resched();
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you add cond_resched() here, the frequency (once per 4K) might be
> > > > > > > too high. You may want to do it once per X pages, where X could be
> > > > > > > something like 1G/4K?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, every iteration is perfectly ok.  The "cond"itional part means that this will
> > > > > > reschedule if and only if it actually needs to be rescheduled, e.g. if the task's
> > > > > > timeslice as expired.  The check for a needed reschedule is cheap, using
> > > > > > cond_resched() in tight-ish loops is ok and intended, e.g. KVM does a reched
> > > > > > check prior to enterring the guest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Double check on the code again. I think the point is not about flag
> > > > > checking. Obviously branch prediction could really help. The point I
> > > > > think is the 'call' to cond_resched(). Depending on the kernel
> > > > > configuration, cond_resched() may not always be inlined, at least this
> > > > > is my understanding so far? So if that is true, then it still might
> > > > > not always be the best to call cond_resched() that often.
> > > >
> > > > Eh, compared to the cost of 64 back-to-back CLFLUSHOPTs, the cost of __cond_resched()
> > > > is peanuts.  Even accounting for the rcu_all_qs() work, it's still dwarfed by the
> > > > cost of flushing data from the cache.  E.g. based on Agner Fog's wonderful uop
> > > > latencies[*], the actual flush time for a single page is going to be upwards of
> > > > 10k cycles, whereas __cond_resched() is going to well under 100 cycles in the happy
> > > > case of no work.  Even if those throughput numbers are off by an order of magnitude,
> > > > e.g. CLFLUSHOPT can complete in 15 cycles, that's still ~1k cycles.
> > > >
> > > > Peter, don't we also theoretically need cond_resched() in the loops in
> > > > sev_launch_update_data()?  AFAICT, there's no articifical restriction on the size
> > > > of the payload, i.e. the kernel is effectively relying on userspace to not update
> > > > large swaths of memory.
> > >
> > > Yea we probably do want to cond_resched() in the for loop inside of
> > > sev_launch_update_data(). Ithink in  sev_dbg_crypt() userspace could
> > > request a large number of pages to be decrypted/encrypted for
> > > debugging but se have a call to sev_pin_memory() in the loop so that
> > > will have a cond_resded() inside of __get_users_pages(). Or should we
> > > have a cond_resded() inside of the loop in sev_dbg_crypt() too?
> >
> > I believe sev_dbg_crypt() needs a cond_resched() of its own, sev_pin_memory()
> > isn't guaranteed to get into the slow path of internal_get_user_pages_fast().
> 
> Ah, understood thanks. I'll send out patches for those two paths. I
> personally haven't seen any warning logs from them though.

Do you have test cases that deliberately attempt to decrypt+read pages upon pages
of guest memory at a time?  Unless someone has wired up a VMM to do a full dump
of guest memory, I highly doubt a "real" VMM will do more than read a handful of
bytes at a time.