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Date:   Thu, 5 May 2022 04:57:50 +0900
From:   Stafford Horne <shorne@...il.com>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>,
        Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andy@...nel.org>,
        device-mapper development <dm-devel@...hat.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>,
        Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Mike Snitzer <msnitzer@...hat.com>,
        Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Milan Broz <gmazyland@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] hex2bin: make the function hex_to_bin constant-time

On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 4:43 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@...c4.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Linus,
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:00 PM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:15 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@...c4.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alignment? Compiler bug? HW issue?
> > >
> > > Probably one of those, yea. Removing the instruction addresses, the only
> > > difference between the two compiles is: https://xn--4db.cc/Rrn8usaX/diff#line-440
> >
> > Well, that address doesn't work for me at all. It turns into א.cc.
> >
> > I'd love to see the compiler problem, since I find those fascinating
> > (mainly because they scare the hell out of me), but those web
> > addresses you use are not working for me.
>
> א.cc is correct. If you can't load it, your browser or something in
> your stack is broken. Choosing a non-ASCII domain like that clearly a
> bad decision because people with broken stacks can't load it? Yea,
> maybe. But maybe it's like the arch/alpha/ reordering of dependent
> loads applied to the web... A bit of stretch.

I have uploaded a diff I created here:
  https://gist.github.com/54334556f2907104cd12374872a0597c

It shows the same output.

> > It most definitely looks like an OpenRISC compiler bug - that code
> > doesn't look like it does anything remotely undefined (and with the
> > "unsigned char", nothing implementation-defined either).
>
> I'm not so certain it's in the compiler anymore, actually. The bug
> exhibits itself even when that code isn't actually called. Adding nops
> to unrelated code also makes the problem go away. And removing these
> nops [1] makes the problem go away too. So maybe it's looking more
> like a linker bug (or linker script bug) related to alignment. Or
> whatever is jumping between contexts in the preemption code and
> restoring registers and such is assuming certain things about code
> layout that doesn't always hold. More fiddling is necessary still.

Bisecting definitely came to this patch which is strange. Then reverting
e5be15767e7e ("hex2bin: make the function hex_to_bin constant-time")
did also fix the problem for me.

But it could be any small patch that changes layout could make this go away.

I have things to try:
  - more close look at the produced asembly diff
  - newer compiler (I fixed a few bugs in gcc 12 for openrisc, and
this testing came up in gcc 11)
  - trying on FPGA's

I'll report as I find things.

-Stafford

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