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Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:47:00 +0100
From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
Cc: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzju@...hat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Drain remote per-cpu directly v2
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > Yes, but as reclaim is not fundamentally altered the main difference
> > in behavious is that work is done inline instead of being deferred to a
> > workqueue. That means in some cases, system CPU usage of a task will be
> > higher because it's paying the cost directly.
>
> Sure but the reclaim path is already expensive so I doubt we could
> see the sizable measurement on the system CPU usage.
>
It would be difficult to distinguish from the noise.
> What I wanted to see was whether we have regression due to adding
> spin_lock/unlock instructions in hot path. Due to squeeze it to
> a cacheline, I expected the regression would be just marginal.
>
Ah, yes, I did test for this. page-fault-test hits the relevant paths
very heavily and did show minor differences.
5.18.0-rc1 5.18.0-rc1
vanilla mm-pcpdrain-v2r1
Hmean faults/sec-1 886331.5718 ( 0.00%) 885462.7479 ( -0.10%)
Hmean faults/sec-3 2337706.1583 ( 0.00%) 2332130.4909 * -0.24%*
Hmean faults/sec-5 2851594.2897 ( 0.00%) 2844123.9307 ( -0.26%)
Hmean faults/sec-7 3543251.5507 ( 0.00%) 3516889.0442 * -0.74%*
Hmean faults/sec-8 3947098.0024 ( 0.00%) 3916162.8476 * -0.78%*
Stddev faults/sec-1 2302.9105 ( 0.00%) 2065.0845 ( 10.33%)
Stddev faults/sec-3 7275.2442 ( 0.00%) 6033.2620 ( 17.07%)
Stddev faults/sec-5 24726.0328 ( 0.00%) 12525.1026 ( 49.34%)
Stddev faults/sec-7 9974.2542 ( 0.00%) 9543.9627 ( 4.31%)
Stddev faults/sec-8 9468.0191 ( 0.00%) 7958.2607 ( 15.95%)
CoeffVar faults/sec-1 0.2598 ( 0.00%) 0.2332 ( 10.24%)
CoeffVar faults/sec-3 0.3112 ( 0.00%) 0.2587 ( 16.87%)
CoeffVar faults/sec-5 0.8670 ( 0.00%) 0.4404 ( 49.21%)
CoeffVar faults/sec-7 0.2815 ( 0.00%) 0.2714 ( 3.60%)
CoeffVar faults/sec-8 0.2399 ( 0.00%) 0.2032 ( 15.28%)
There is a small hit in the number of faults per second but it's within
the noise and the results are more stable with the series so I'd mark it
down as a small but potentially measurable impact.
> >
> > The workloads I used just hit reclaim directly to make sure it's
> > functionally not broken. There is no change in page aging decisions,
> > only timing of drains. I didn't check interference of a heavy workload
> > interfering with a CPU-bound workload running on NOHZ CPUs as I assumed
> > both you and Nicolas had a test case ready to use.
>
> The my workload is not NOHZ CPUs but run apps under heavy memory
> pressure so they goes to direct reclaim and be stuck on drain_all_pages
> until work on workqueue run.
>
> unit: nanosecond
> max(dur) avg(dur) count(dur)
> 166713013 487511.77786438033 1283
>
> From traces, system encountered the drain_all_pages 1283 times and
> worst case was 166ms and avg was 487us.
>
> The other problem was alloc_contig_range in CMA. The PCP draining
> takes several hundred millisecond sometimes though there is no
> memory pressure or a few of pages to be migrated out but CPU were
> fully booked.
>
> Your patch perfectly removed those wasted time.
>
Those stalls are painful and it's a direct impact where a workload does
not make progress. The NOHZ stall is different in that it's worried
about interference. Both problems should have the same solution.
Do you mind if I quote these paragraphs in the leader to v3?
> > Which ones are of concern?
> >
> > Some of the page->lru references I left alone in the init paths simply
> > because in those contexts, the page wasn't on a buddy or PCP list. In
> > free_unref_page_list the page is not on the LRU, it's just been isolated
> > from the LRU. In alloc_pages_bulk, it's not on a buddy, pcp or LRU list
> > and is just a list placeholder so I left it alone. In
> > free_tail_pages_check the context was a page that was likely previously
> > on a LRU.
>
> Just nits: all are list macros.
>
> free_pcppages_bulk's list_last_entry should be pcp_list.
>
> mark_free_pages's list_for_each_entry should be buddy_list
>
> __rmqueue_pcplist's list_first_enty should be pcp_list.
>
Ah, you're completely correct.
> >
> > > since I have
> > > tested these patchset in my workload and didn't spot any other
> > > problems.
> > >
> >
> > Can you describe this workload, is it available anywhere and does it
> > require Android to execute?
>
> I wrote down above. It runs on Android but I don't think it's
> android specific issue but anyone could see such a long latency
> from PCP draining once one of cores are monopolized by higher
> priority processes or too many pending kworks.
>
Yeah, I agree it's not an Android-specific problem. It could be detected by
tracing the time spent in drain_all_pages for any arbitrary workload. The
BCC funclatency tool could measure it.
> >
> > If you have positive results, it would be appreciated if you could post
> > them or just note in a Tested-by/Acked-by that it had a measurable impact
> > on the reclaim/cma path.
>
> Sure.
>
> All patches in this series.
>
> Tested-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
> Acked-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
>
Thanks, I've added that to all the patches. I'll wait another day for
more feedback before sending out a v3. The following is the diff between
v2 and v3 based on your feedback.
diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index 4ac39d30ec8f..0f5a6a5b0302 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -1497,7 +1497,7 @@ static void free_pcppages_bulk(struct zone *zone, int count,
do {
int mt;
- page = list_last_entry(list, struct page, lru);
+ page = list_last_entry(list, struct page, pcp_list);
mt = get_pcppage_migratetype(page);
/* must delete to avoid corrupting pcp list */
@@ -3276,7 +3276,7 @@ void mark_free_pages(struct zone *zone)
for_each_migratetype_order(order, t) {
list_for_each_entry(page,
- &zone->free_area[order].free_list[t], lru) {
+ &zone->free_area[order].free_list[t], buddy_list) {
unsigned long i;
pfn = page_to_pfn(page);
@@ -3761,7 +3761,7 @@ struct page *__rmqueue_pcplist(struct zone *zone, unsigned int order,
}
}
- page = list_first_entry(list, struct page, lru);
+ page = list_first_entry(list, struct page, pcp_list);
list_del(&page->pcp_list);
pcp->count -= 1 << order;
} while (check_new_pcp(page, order));
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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