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Date:   Fri, 13 May 2022 13:32:42 -0400
From:   "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
Cc:     Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        Alexey Bayduraev <alexey.v.bayduraev@...ux.intel.com>,
        Leo Yan <leo.yan@...aro.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 22/23] perf tools: Allow system-wide events to keep
 their own CPUs



On 5/13/2022 12:42 PM, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:11 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 13/05/22 18:46, Liang, Kan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/13/2022 11:21 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>> On 13/05/22 17:12, Liang, Kan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/2022 12:48 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/05/22 21:53, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 3:35 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/05/22 08:27, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 5:27 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently, user_requested_cpus supplants system-wide CPUs when the evlist
>>>>>>>>>> has_user_cpus. Change that so that system-wide events retain their own
>>>>>>>>>> CPUs and they are added to all_cpus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Acked-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>     tools/lib/perf/evlist.c | 11 +++++------
>>>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c b/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
>>>>>>>>>> index 1c801f8da44f..9a6801b53274 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -40,12 +40,11 @@ static void __perf_evlist__propagate_maps(struct perf_evlist *evlist,
>>>>>>>>>>             * We already have cpus for evsel (via PMU sysfs) so
>>>>>>>>>>             * keep it, if there's no target cpu list defined.
>>>>>>>>>>             */
>>>>>>>>>> -       if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus) {
>>>>>>>>>> -               perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
>>>>>>>>>> -               evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
>>>>>>>>>> -       } else if (!evsel->system_wide &&
>>>>>>>>>> -                  !evsel->requires_cpu &&
>>>>>>>>>> -                  perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) {
>>>>>>>>>> +       if (!evsel->own_cpus ||
>>>>>>>>>> +           (!evsel->system_wide && evlist->has_user_cpus) ||
>>>>>>>>>> +           (!evsel->system_wide &&
>>>>>>>>>> +            !evsel->requires_cpu &&
>>>>>>>>>> +            perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))) {
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is getting hard to understand.  IIUC this propagation basically
>>>>>>>>> sets user requested cpus to evsel unless it has its own cpus, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I put the conditional logic altogether because that is kernel style but
>>>>>>>> it does make it practically unreadable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we start with the original logic:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus) {
>>>>>>>>                    perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
>>>>>>>>                    evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
>>>>>>>>            } else if (!evsel->system_wide && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) {
>>>>>>>>                    perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
>>>>>>>>                    evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
>>>>>>>>            } else if (evsel->cpus != evsel->own_cpus) {
>>>>>>>>                    perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
>>>>>>>>                    evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evsel->own_cpus);
>>>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then make it more readable, i.e. same functionality
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            struct perf_cpu_map *cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (!evsel->system_wide && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (evsel->cpus != cpus) {
>>>>>>>>                    perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
>>>>>>>>                    evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(cpus);
>>>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then separate out the conditions, i.e. still same functionality
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evsel->system_wide)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then add the new requires_cpu flag:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evsel->system_wide)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>> -       else if (perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
>>>>>>>> +       else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then make system_wide keep own_cpus even if has_user_cpus:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>> +       else if (evsel->system_wide)
>>>>>>>> +               cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>> -       else if (evsel->system_wide)
>>>>>>>> -               cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which leaves:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evsel->system_wide)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And putting it back together:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            if (!evsel->own_cpus ||
>>>>>>>>                (!evsel->system_wide && evlist->has_user_cpus) ||
>>>>>>>>                (!evsel->system_wide &&
>>>>>>>>                 !evsel->requires_cpu &&
>>>>>>>>                 perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))) {
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
>>>>>>>>            else
>>>>>>>>                    cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps I shouldn't put it together?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool, thanks a lot for explaining it in detail.
>>>>>>> I do not oppose your change but little worried about the
>>>>>>> complexity.  And I think we have some issues with uncore
>>>>>>> events already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is a bit complicated because we are handling
>>>>>> many different use cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So do you have any idea where evsel->own_cpus
>>>>>>> doesn't propagate to evsel->cpus?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We let the user's list of CPUs override it i.e. the
>>>>>> evlist->has_user_cpus case.  Essentially we are expecting
>>>>>> the user to know what they are doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think evsel->system_wide and evsel->requires_cpu
>>>>>>> can be replaced to check evsel->own_cpus instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not at the moment because we let the user override
>>>>>> own_cpus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we check whether the user's input is valid (match the PMU's cpumask) before the override?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we know the PMU name. The cpumask of the PMU can be found in the sysfs. So we should have enough information for a sanity check.
>>>>
>>>> For the uncore PMU case, I am not sure what sanity is :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> For a non-core PMU, e.g., uncore, cstate, power and etc. The cpumask is under the /sys/devices/<PMU>/cpumask. It shows the cpumask which kernel supports. If a end user request a different CPU other that the cpumask, I think it's better throw a waning. It should mitigate the confusion which Namhyung mentioned (uncore -C1,2).
>>
>> So you couldn't get uncore events unless you are also coincidentally wanting to trace CPU 0.
>>
>> I guess really the requrement is not to perf_event_open() an uncore PMU more than once?
>> To figure that out we'd need to be able map CPUs to uncore PMUs?
> 
> We might just use evsel->own_cpus for uncore events and
> if the user-given cpu list contains other cpus it can show an
> warning.
>

Yes, it sounds reasonable.


Thanks,
Kan

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