linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload related to hugetlb and memory

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Date:   Mon, 16 May 2022 11:25:30 +0800
From:   Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>
To:     David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也) 
        <naoya.horiguchi@....com>, Oscar Salvador <osalvador@...e.de>
CC:     Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@...ux.dev>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@...cle.com>,
        Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>,
        Muchun Song <songmuchun@...edance.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload
 related to hugetlb and memory_hotplug

On 2022/5/12 20:59, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 12.05.22 13:13, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>> On 2022/5/12 15:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once the problematic DIMM would actually get unplugged, the memory block devices
>>>>>>> would get removed as well. So when hotplugging a new DIMM in the same
>>>>>>> location, we could online that memory again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about PG_hwpoison flags?  struct pages are also freed and reallocated
>>>>>> in the actual DIMM replacement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Once memory is offline, the memmap is stale and is no longer
>>>>> trustworthy. It gets reinitialize during memory onlining -- so any
>>>>> previous PG_hwpoison is overridden at least there. In some setups, we
>>>>> even poison the whole memmap via page_init_poison() during memory offlining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that, we should be freeing the memmap in all relevant cases
>>>>> when removing memory. I remember there are a couple of corner cases, but
>>>>> we don't really have to care about that.
>>>>
>>>> OK, so there seems no need to manipulate struct pages for hwpoison in
>>>> all relevant cases.
>>>
>>> Right. When offlining a memory block, all we have to do is remember if
>>> we stumbled over a hwpoisoned page and rememebr that inside the memory
>>> block. Rejecting to online is then easy.
>>
>> BTW: How should we deal with the below race window:
>>
>> CPU A			CPU B				CPU C
>> accessing page while hold page refcnt
>> 			memory_failure happened on page
>> 							offline_pages
>> 							  page can be offlined due to page refcnt
>> 							  is ignored when PG_hwpoison is set
>> can still access page struct...
>>
>> Any in use page (with page refcnt incremented) might be offlined while its content, e.g. flags, private ..., can
>> still be accessed if the above race happened. Is this possible? Or am I miss something? Any suggestion to fix it?
>> I can't figure out a way yet. :(
> 
> I assume you mean that test_pages_isolated() essentially only checks for
> PageHWPoison() and doesn't care about the refcount?

Yes, page refcount is ignored when PG_HWPoison is set.

> 
> That part is very dodgy and it's part of my motivation to question that
> whole handling in the first place.
> 
> 
> In do_migrate_range(), there is a comment:
> 
> "
>  HWPoison pages have elevated reference counts so the migration would
>  fail on them. It also doesn't make any sense to migrate them in the
>  first place. Still try to unmap such a page in case it is still mapped
>  (e.g. current hwpoison implementation doesn't unmap KSM pages but keep
>  the unmap as the catch all safety net).
> "
> 
> My assumption would be: if there are any unexpected references on a
> hwpoison page, we must fail offlining. Ripping out the page might be
> more harmful then just leaving it in place and failing offlining for the
> time being.

I tend to agree with this. :)

> 
> 
> 
> I am no export on PageHWPoison(). Which guarantees do we have regarding
> the page count?
> 
> If we succeed in unmapping the page, there shouldn't be any references
> from the page tables. We might still have GUP references to such pages,
> and it would be fair enough to fail offlining. I remember we try
> removing the page from the pagecache etc. to free up these references.
> So which additional references do we have that the comment in offlining
> code talks about? A single additional one from hwpoison code?

IIRC, memory_failure will hold one extra page refcount. This refcount will be released
in unpoison_memory.

> 
> Once we figure that out, we might tweak test_pages_isolated() to also
> consider the page count and not rip out random pages that are still
> referenced in the system.
> 

But there are some corner cases where PageHWPoison is set but page refcnt is not increased.
So we couldn't detect the page refcount reliably now. :(

Thanks!