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Message-ID: <13028ff4-3565-f09e-818c-19e5f95fa60f@living180.net>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 18:13:13 +0300
From: Daniel Harding <dharding@...ing180.net>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com>
Cc: regressions@...ts.linux.dev, io-uring@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@...mhuis.info>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] lxc-stop hang on 5.17.x kernels
On 5/16/22 16:57, Daniel Harding wrote:
> On 5/16/22 16:25, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 5/16/22 13:12, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> On 5/15/22 19:34, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/22 11:20, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>>> On 04.05.22 08:54, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/3/22 17:14, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/3/22 08:37, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>>>>>> [Resend with a smaller trace]
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/22 02:14, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 19:49, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 20:40, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 18:00, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 7:59 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 7:36 AM, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 16:26, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/22 7:17 AM, Daniel Harding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use lxc-4.0.12 on Gentoo, built with io-uring support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (--enable-liburing), targeting liburing-2.1. My kernel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very lightly modified version of Fedora's generic kernel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config. After
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving from the 5.16.x series to the 5.17.x kernel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed frequent hangs in lxc-stop. It doesn't happen 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, but definitely more than 50% of the time. Bisecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> narrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the issue to commit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aa43477b040251f451db0d844073ac00a8ab66ee:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> io_uring: poll rework. Testing indicates the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 5.18-rc5. Unfortunately I do not have the expertise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codebases of either lxc or io-uring to try to debug the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further on my own, but I can easily apply patches to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved components (lxc, liburing, kernel) and rebuild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> validation. I am also happy to provide any further
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be helpful with reproducing or debugging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a recipe to reproduce the hang? That would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significantly easier to figure out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can reproduce it with just the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo lxc-create --n lxc-test --template download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --bdev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dir --dir /var/lib/lxc/lxc-test/rootfs -- -d ubuntu -r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bionic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo lxc-start -n lxc-test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo lxc-stop -n lxc-test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The lxc-stop command never exits and the container continues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that isn't sufficient to reproduce, please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, that's useful! I'm at a conference this week and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited amount of time to debug, hopefully Pavel has time to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't manage to reproduce. Can you try, on both the good
>>>>>>>>>>>> and bad
>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel, to do:
>>>>>>>>>>> Same here, it doesn't reproduce for me
>>>>>>>>>> OK, sorry it wasn't something simple.
>>>>>>>>>>> # echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/io_uring/enable
>>>>>>>>>>>> run lxc-stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> # cp /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace ~/iou-trace
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so we can see what's going on? Looking at the source, lxc
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>> plain POLL_ADD, so I'm guessing it's not getting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> notification
>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
>>>>>>>>>>>> expects to, or it's POLL_REMOVE not doing its job. If we
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> trace
>>>>>>>>>>>> from both a working and broken kernel, that might shed some
>>>>>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>>>> It's late in my timezone, but I'll try to work on getting those
>>>>>>>>>> traces tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>> I think I got it, I've attached a trace.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it issues a multi shot poll but I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> see any kind of cancellation, neither cancel requests nor
>>>>>>>>> task/ring
>>>>>>>>> exit. Perhaps have to go look at lxc to see how it's supposed
>>>>>>>>> to work
>>>>>>>> Yes, that looks exactly like my bad trace. I've attached good
>>>>>>>> trace
>>>>>>>> (captured with linux-5.16.19) and a bad trace (captured with
>>>>>>>> linux-5.17.5). These are the differences I noticed with just a
>>>>>>>> visual scan:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Both traces have three io_uring_submit_sqe calls at the very
>>>>>>>> beginning, but in the good trace, there are further
>>>>>>>> io_uring_submit_sqe calls throughout the trace, while in the bad
>>>>>>>> trace, there are none.
>>>>>>>> * The good trace uses a mask of c3 for io_uring_task_add much more
>>>>>>>> often than the bad trace: the bad trace uses a mask of c3 only
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the very last call to io_uring_task_add, but a mask of 41 for the
>>>>>>>> other calls.
>>>>>>>> * In the good trace, many of the io_uring_complete calls have a
>>>>>>>> result of 195, while in the bad trace, they all have a result
>>>>>>>> of 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know whether any of those things are significant or
>>>>>>>> not, but
>>>>>>>> that's what jumped out at me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have also attached a copy of the script I used to generate the
>>>>>>>> traces. If there is anything further I can to do help debug,
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>>> Good observations! thanks for traces.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like multi-shot poll requests were getting downgraded
>>>>>>> to one-shot, which is a valid behaviour and was so because we
>>>>>>> didn't fully support some cases. If that's the reason, than
>>>>>>> the userspace/lxc is misusing the ABI. At least, that's the
>>>>>>> working hypothesis for now, need to check lxc.
>>>>>> So, I looked at the lxc source code, and it appears to at least
>>>>>> try to
>>>>>> handle the case of multi-shot being downgraded to one-shot. I don't
>>>>>> know enough to know if the code is actually correct however:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/lxc/lxc/blob/7e37cc96bb94175a8e351025d26cc35dc2d10543/src/lxc/mainloop.c#L165-L189
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/lxc/lxc/blob/7e37cc96bb94175a8e351025d26cc35dc2d10543/src/lxc/mainloop.c#L254
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/lxc/lxc/blob/7e37cc96bb94175a8e351025d26cc35dc2d10543/src/lxc/mainloop.c#L288-L290
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, this is your Linux kernel regression tracker. Nothing happened
>>>>> here
>>>>> for round about ten days now afaics; or did the discussion continue
>>>>> somewhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I gathered from this discussion is seems the root cause
>>>>> might
>>>>> be in LXC, but it was exposed by kernel change. That makes it sill a
>>>>> kernel regression that should be fixed; or is there a strong
>>>>> reason why
>>>>> we should let this one slip?
>>>>
>>>> No, there hasn't been any discussion since the email you replied
>>>> to. I've done a bit more testing on my end, but without anything
>>>> conclusive. The one thing I can say is that my testing shows that
>>>> LXC does correctly handle multi-shot poll requests which were being
>>>> downgraded to one-shot in 5.16.x kernels, which I think invalidates
>>>> Pavel's theory. In 5.17.x kernels, those same poll requests are no
>>>> longer being downgraded to one-shot requests, and thus under 5.17.x
>>>> LXC is no longer re-arming those poll requests (but also shouldn't
>>>> need to, according to what is being returned by the kernel). I
>>>> don't know if this change in kernel behavior is related to the
>>>> hang, or if it is just a side effect of other io-uring changes that
>>>> made it into 5.17. Nothing in the LXC's usage of io-uring seems
>>>> obviously incorrect to me, but I am far from an expert. I also did
>>>> some work toward creating a simpler reproducer, without success (I
>>>> was able to get a simple program using io-uring running, but never
>>>> could get it to hang). ISTM that this is still a kernel
>>>> regression, unless someone can point out a definite fault in the
>>>> way LXC is using io-uring.
>>>
>>> Haven't had time to debug it. Apparently LXC is stuck on
>>> read(2) terminal fd. Not yet clear what is the reason.
>>
>> How it was with oneshots:
>>
>> 1: kernel: poll fires, add a CQE
>> 2: kernel: remove poll
>> 3: userspace: get CQE
>> 4: userspace: read(terminal_fd);
>> 5: userspace: add new poll
>> 6: goto 1)
>>
>> What might happen and actually happens with multishot:
>>
>> 1: kernel: poll fires, add CQE1
>> 2: kernel: poll fires again, add CQE2
>> 3: userspace: get CQE1
>> 4: userspace: read(terminal_fd); // reads all data, for both CQE1 and
>> CQE2
>> 5: userspace: get CQE2
>> 6: userspace: read(terminal_fd); // nothing to read, hangs here
>>
>> It should be the read in lxc_terminal_ptx_io().
>>
>> IMHO, it's not a regression but a not perfect feature API and/or
>> an API misuse.
>>
>> Cc: Christian Brauner
>>
>> Christian, in case you may have some input on the LXC side of things.
>> Daniel reported an LXC problem when it uses io_uring multishot poll
>> requests.
>> Before aa43477b04025 ("io_uring: poll rework"), multishot poll
>> requests for
>> tty/pty and some other files were always downgraded to oneshots,
>> which had
>> been fixed by the commit and exposed the problem. I hope the example
>> above
>> explains it, but please let me know if it needs more details
>
> Pavel, I had actually just started a draft email with the same theory
> (although you stated it much more clearly than I could have). I'm
> working on debugging the LXC side, but I'm pretty sure the issue is
> due to LXC using blocking reads and getting stuck exactly as you
> describe. If I can confirm this, I'll go ahead and mark this
> regression as invalid and file an issue with LXC. Thanks for your help
> and patience.
Yes, it does appear that was the problem. The attach POC patch against
LXC fixes the hang. The kernel is working as intended.
#regzbot invalid: userspace programming error
--
Regards,
Daniel Harding
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