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Date:   Tue, 17 May 2022 09:43:28 -0400
From:   "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
Cc:     acme@...nel.org, mingo@...hat.com, jolsa@...nel.org,
        namhyung@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, peterz@...radead.org,
        zhengjun.xing@...ux.intel.com, adrian.hunter@...el.com,
        ak@...ux.intel.com, eranian@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/4] perf evsel: Fixes topdown events in a weak group
 for the hybrid platform



On 5/16/2022 10:52 PM, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:25 AM <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
>>
>> The patch ("perf evlist: Keep topdown counters in weak group") fixes the
>> perf metrics topdown event issue when the topdown events are in a weak
>> group on a non-hybrid platform. However, it doesn't work for the hybrid
>> platform.
>>
>> $./perf stat -e '{cpu_core/slots/,cpu_core/topdown-bad-spec/,
>> cpu_core/topdown-be-bound/,cpu_core/topdown-fe-bound/,
>> cpu_core/topdown-retiring/,cpu_core/branch-instructions/,
>> cpu_core/branch-misses/,cpu_core/bus-cycles/,cpu_core/cache-misses/,
>> cpu_core/cache-references/,cpu_core/cpu-cycles/,cpu_core/instructions/,
>> cpu_core/mem-loads/,cpu_core/mem-stores/,cpu_core/ref-cycles/,
>> cpu_core/cache-misses/,cpu_core/cache-references/}:W' -a sleep 1
>>
>>   Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
>>
>>         751,765,068      cpu_core/slots/                                               (84.07%)
>>     <not supported>      cpu_core/topdown-bad-spec/
>>     <not supported>      cpu_core/topdown-be-bound/
>>     <not supported>      cpu_core/topdown-fe-bound/
>>     <not supported>      cpu_core/topdown-retiring/
>>          12,398,197      cpu_core/branch-instructions/                                     (84.07%)
>>           1,054,218      cpu_core/branch-misses/                                       (84.24%)
>>         539,764,637      cpu_core/bus-cycles/                                          (84.64%)
>>              14,683      cpu_core/cache-misses/                                        (84.87%)
>>           7,277,809      cpu_core/cache-references/                                     (77.30%)
>>         222,299,439      cpu_core/cpu-cycles/                                          (77.28%)
>>          63,661,714      cpu_core/instructions/                                        (84.85%)
>>                   0      cpu_core/mem-loads/                                           (77.29%)
>>          12,271,725      cpu_core/mem-stores/                                          (77.30%)
>>         542,241,102      cpu_core/ref-cycles/                                          (84.85%)
>>               8,854      cpu_core/cache-misses/                                        (76.71%)
>>           7,179,013      cpu_core/cache-references/                                     (76.31%)
>>
>>         1.003245250 seconds time elapsed
>>
>> A hybrid platform has a different PMU name for the core PMUs, while
>> the current perf hard code the PMU name "cpu".
>>
>> The evsel->pmu_name can be used to replace the "cpu" to fix the issue.
>> For a hybrid platform, the pmu_name must be non-NULL. Because there are
>> at least two core PMUs. The PMU has to be specified.
>> For a non-hybrid platform, the pmu_name may be NULL. Because there is
>> only one core PMU, "cpu". For a NULL pmu_name, we can safely assume that
>> it is a "cpu" PMU.
>>
>> In case other PMUs also define the "slots" event, checking the PMU type
>> as well.
>>
>> With the patch,
>>
>> $perf stat -e '{cpu_core/slots/,cpu_core/topdown-bad-spec/,
>> cpu_core/topdown-be-bound/,cpu_core/topdown-fe-bound/,
>> cpu_core/topdown-retiring/,cpu_core/branch-instructions/,
>> cpu_core/branch-misses/,cpu_core/bus-cycles/,cpu_core/cache-misses/,
>> cpu_core/cache-references/,cpu_core/cpu-cycles/,cpu_core/instructions/,
>> cpu_core/mem-loads/,cpu_core/mem-stores/,cpu_core/ref-cycles/,
>> cpu_core/cache-misses/,cpu_core/cache-references/}:W' -a sleep 1
>>
>>   Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
>>
>>         766,620,266      cpu_core/slots/                                               (84.06%)
>>          73,172,129      cpu_core/topdown-bad-spec/ #      9.5% bad speculation         (84.06%)
>>         193,443,341      cpu_core/topdown-be-bound/ #     25.0% backend bound           (84.06%)
>>         403,940,929      cpu_core/topdown-fe-bound/ #     52.3% frontend bound          (84.06%)
>>         102,070,237      cpu_core/topdown-retiring/ #     13.2% retiring                (84.06%)
>>          12,364,429      cpu_core/branch-instructions/                                     (84.03%)
>>           1,080,124      cpu_core/branch-misses/                                       (84.24%)
>>         564,120,383      cpu_core/bus-cycles/                                          (84.65%)
>>              36,979      cpu_core/cache-misses/                                        (84.86%)
>>           7,298,094      cpu_core/cache-references/                                     (77.30%)
>>         227,174,372      cpu_core/cpu-cycles/                                          (77.31%)
>>          63,886,523      cpu_core/instructions/                                        (84.87%)
>>                   0      cpu_core/mem-loads/                                           (77.31%)
>>          12,208,782      cpu_core/mem-stores/                                          (77.31%)
>>         566,409,738      cpu_core/ref-cycles/                                          (84.87%)
>>              23,118      cpu_core/cache-misses/                                        (76.71%)
>>           7,212,602      cpu_core/cache-references/                                     (76.29%)
>>
>>         1.003228667 seconds time elapsed
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
>> ---
>>   tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evsel.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++--
>>   1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evsel.c b/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evsel.c
>> index 00cb4466b4ca..6eda5a491eda 100644
>> --- a/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evsel.c
>> +++ b/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evsel.c
>> @@ -31,10 +31,27 @@ void arch_evsel__fixup_new_cycles(struct perf_event_attr *attr)
>>          free(env.cpuid);
>>   }
>>
>> +static bool evsel__sys_has_perf_metrics(const struct evsel *evsel)
>> +{
> 
> Why have this and not use topdown_sys_has_perf_metrics? It seems
> strange to have the mix of evsel and PMU that this function is
> testing.

This function tells whether the evsel's PMU supports perf metrics.
The topdown_sys_has_perf_metrics() tells whether there is a PMU on the 
machine which supports perf metrics.

I don't think we want to group the topdown events on the cpu_atom.
The evsel__sys_has_perf_metrics() can filter out the cpu_atom case.

I will add comments for the two functions to clarify.
> 
>> +       const char *pmu_name = evsel->pmu_name ? evsel->pmu_name : "cpu";
>> +
>> +       /*
>> +        * The PERF_TYPE_RAW type is the core PMU type.
>> +        * The slots event is only available for the core PMU, which
>> +        * supports the perf metrics feature.
> 
> nit: Does "core PMU" mean /sys/devices/cpu_core ? It would be good to
> disambiguate possibly by just using "cpu_core PMU".

No. The core PMU is to be distinguished with the uncore PMU.
For a non-hybrid machine, the core PMU is the "cpu" PMU.
For a hybrid machine, the core PMU is the "cpu_core" PMU.

I don't think we want to specify the "cpu_core" PMU here, because the 
function should work for both hybrid and non-hybrid platforms.

Thanks,
Kan

> 
> Thanks,
> Ian
> 
> 
>> +        * Checking both the PERF_TYPE_RAW type and the slots event
>> +        * should be good enough to detect the perf metrics feature.
>> +        */
>> +       if ((evsel->core.attr.type == PERF_TYPE_RAW) &&
>> +           pmu_have_event(pmu_name, "slots"))
>> +               return true;
>> +
>> +       return false;
>> +}
>> +
>>   bool arch_evsel__must_be_in_group(const struct evsel *evsel)
>>   {
>> -       if ((evsel->pmu_name && strcmp(evsel->pmu_name, "cpu")) ||
>> -           !pmu_have_event("cpu", "slots"))
>> +       if (!evsel__sys_has_perf_metrics(evsel))
>>                  return false;
>>
>>          return evsel->name &&
>> --
>> 2.35.1
>>

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