linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v3 02/19] KVM: x86: inhibit APICv/AVIC when the guest and/or host changes apic id/base from the defaults.

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Message-ID: <670fdf36585b1bf7c367cff4ab0653f4c7de8808.camel@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed, 18 May 2022 15:36:44 +0300
From:   Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@...hat.com>
To:     Chao Gao <chao.gao@...el.com>
Cc:     kvm@...r.kernel.org, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@...cent.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 02/19] KVM: x86: inhibit APICv/AVIC when the
 guest and/or host changes apic id/base from the defaults.

On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 19:51 +0800, Chao Gao wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:50:27PM +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > > struct kvm_arch {
> > > > @@ -1258,6 +1260,7 @@ struct kvm_arch {
> > > > 	hpa_t	hv_root_tdp;
> > > > 	spinlock_t hv_root_tdp_lock;
> > > > #endif
> > > > +	bool apic_id_changed;
> > > 
> > > What's the value of this boolean? No one reads it.
> > 
> > I use it in later patches to kill the guest during nested VM entry 
> > if it attempts to use nested AVIC after any vCPU changed APIC ID.
> > 
> > I mentioned this boolean in the commit description.
> > 
> > This boolean avoids the need to go over all vCPUs and checking
> > if they still have the initial apic id.
> 
> Do you want to kill the guest if APIC base got changed? If yes,
> you can check if APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_RO_SETTINGS is set and save
> the boolean.

Yep, I thrown in the apic base just because I can. It doesn't matter to 
my nested AVIC logic at all, but since it is also something that guests
don't change, I also don't care if this will lead to inhibit and
killing the guest if it attempts to use nested AVIC.

That boolean should have the same value as the APICV_INHIBIT_REASON_RO_SETTINGS
inhibit, so yes I can instead check if the inhibit is active.

I don't know if that is cleaner that this boolean though, individual
inhibit value is currently not something that anybody uses in logic.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky


> 
> > In the future maybe we can introduce a more generic 'taint'
> > bitmap with various flags like that, indicating that the guest
> > did something unexpected.
> > 
> > BTW, the other option in regard to the nested AVIC is just to ignore this issue completely.
> > The code itself always uses vcpu_id's, thus regardless of when/how often the guest changes
> > its apic ids, my code would just use the initial APIC ID values consistently.
> > 
> > In this case I won't need this boolean.
> > 
> > > > };
> > > > 
> > > > struct kvm_vm_stat {
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > > > index 66b0eb0bda94e..8996675b3ef4c 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > > > @@ -2038,6 +2038,19 @@ static void apic_manage_nmi_watchdog(struct kvm_lapic *apic, u32 lvt0_val)
> > > > 	}
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > +static void kvm_lapic_check_initial_apic_id(struct kvm_lapic *apic)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	if (kvm_apic_has_initial_apic_id(apic))
> > > > +		return;
> > > > +
> > > > +	pr_warn_once("APIC ID change is unsupported by KVM");
> > > 
> > > It is misleading because changing xAPIC ID is supported by KVM; it just
> > > isn't compatible with APICv. Probably this pr_warn_once() should be
> > > removed.
> > 
> > Honestly since nobody uses this feature, I am not sure if to call this supported,
> > I am sure that KVM has more bugs in regard of using non standard APIC ID.
> > This warning might hopefuly make someone complain about it if this
> > feature is actually used somewhere.
> 
> Now I got you. It is fine to me.
>