linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/6] Drain remote per-cpu directly v3

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Thu, 19 May 2022 14:29:39 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To:     Qian Cai <quic_qiancai@...cinc.com>
Cc:     Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzju@...hat.com>,
        Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, kafai@...com, kpsingh@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Drain remote per-cpu directly v3

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:05:04PM -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 12:15:24PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Is the task doing offline_pages()->synchronize_rcu() doing this
> > repeatedly?  Or is there a stalled RCU grace period?  (From what
> > I can see, offline_pages() is not doing huge numbers of calls to
> > synchronize_rcu() in any of its loops, but I freely admit that I do not
> > know this code.)
> 
> Yes, we are running into an endless loop in isolate_single_pageblock().
> There was a similar issue happened not long ago, so I am wondering if we
> did not solve it entirely then. Anyway, I will continue the thread over
> there.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/YoavU%2F+NfQIzQiDF@qian/

I do know that feeling.

> > Or is it possible that reverting those three patches simply decreases
> > the probability of failure, rather than eliminating the failure?
> > Such a decrease could be due to many things, for example, changes to
> > offsets and sizes of data structures.
> 
> Entirely possible. Sorry for the false alarm.

Not a problem!

> > Do you ever see RCU CPU stall warnings?
> 
> No.

OK, then perhaps a sequence of offline_pages() calls.

Hmmm...  The percpu_up_write() function sets ->block to zero before
awakening waiters.  Given wakeup latencies, might this allow an only
somewhat unfortunate sequence of events to allow offline_pages() to
starve readers?  Or is there something I am missing that prevents this
from happening?

							Thanx, Paul