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Date:   Tue, 31 May 2022 12:50:49 +0100
From:   Valentin Schneider <vschneid@...hat.com>
To:     Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@...ux.alibaba.com>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched: Queue task on wakelist in the same llc if the
 wakee cpu is idle

On 31/05/22 15:20, Tianchen Ding wrote:
> On 2022/5/31 00:24, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> 
>> This feels a bit like a generalization of
>> 
>>    2ebb17717550 ("sched/core: Offload wakee task activation if it the wakee is descheduling")
>> 
>> Given rq->curr is updated before prev->on_cpu is cleared, the waker
>> executing ttwu_queue_cond() can observe:
>> 
>>    p->on_rq=0
>>    p->on_cpu=1
>>    rq->curr=swapper/x (aka idle task)
>> 
>> So your addition of available_idle_cpu() in ttwu_queue_cond() (sort of)
>> matches that when invoked via:
>> 
>>          if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
>>              ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags | WF_ON_CPU))
>>                  goto unlock;
>> 
>> but it also affects
>> 
>>          ttwu_queue(p, cpu, wake_flags);
>> 
>> at the tail end of try_to_wake_up().
>
> Yes. This part is what we mainly want to affect. The above WF_ON_CPU is 
> not our point.
>

Right.

>> 
>> With all that in mind, I'm curious whether your patch is functionaly close
>> to the below.
>> 
>> ---
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> index 66c4e5922fe1..ffd43264722a 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> @@ -3836,7 +3836,7 @@ static inline bool ttwu_queue_cond(int cpu, int wake_flags)
>>   	 * the soon-to-be-idle CPU as the current CPU is likely busy.
>>   	 * nr_running is checked to avoid unnecessary task stacking.
>>   	 */
>> -	if ((wake_flags & WF_ON_CPU) && cpu_rq(cpu)->nr_running <= 1)
>> +	if (cpu_rq(cpu)->nr_running <= 1)
>>   		return true;
>>   
>>   	return false;
>
> It's a little different. This may bring extra IPIs when nr_running == 1 
> and the current task on wakee cpu is not the target wakeup task (i.e., 
> rq->curr == another_task && rq->curr != p). Then this another_task may 
> be disturbed by IPI which is not expected. So IMO the promise by 
> WF_ON_CPU is necessary.

You're right, actually taking a second look at that WF_ON_CPU path,
shouldn't the existing condition be:

	if ((wake_flags & WF_ON_CPU) && !cpu_rq(cpu)->nr_running)

? Per the p->on_rq and p->on_cpu ordering, if we have WF_ON_CPU here then
we must have !p->on_rq, so the deactivate has happened, thus the task
being alone on the rq implies nr_running==0.

@Mel, do you remember why you went for <=1 here? I couldn't find any clues
on the original posting.

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