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Message-ID: <YqILv21K+tZ00Qhx@sirena.org.uk>
Date:   Thu, 9 Jun 2022 16:03:27 +0100
From:   Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
To:     Martin Povišer <povik+lin@...ebit.org>
Cc:     Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
        Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
        Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>, alsa-devel@...a-project.org,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Mark Kettenis <kettenis@...nbsd.org>,
        Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>,
        Sven Peter <sven@...npeter.dev>, asahi@...ts.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] ASoC: apple: Add macaudio machine driver

On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 03:42:09PM +0200, Martin Povišer wrote:
> > On 9. 6. 2022, at 15:16, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:

> > As far as I can tell this demux is entirely software based - why not
> > just expose the routing control to userspace and let it handle
> > switching (which I suspect may be more featureful than what's
> > implemented here)?

> Well, userspace should have the other two muxes at its disposal to
> implement any routing/switching it wishes -- but in addition we are
> also offering letting kernel take care of the switching, by pointing
> the muxes to the demux.

> I assume (but I don’t know the extent of what’s possible with UCM files),
> that this will be of some value to users running plain ALSA with no
> sound server.

That's basically no userspaces at this point TBH.  I'm not convinced
it's a good idea to be adding custom code for that use case.

> > This should be integrated with the core jack detection stuff in
> > soc-jack.c and/or the core stuff that's wrapping - that way you'll
> > ensure that events are generated and status readable via all the
> > interfaces userspace might be looking for.  The ASoC stuff also has some
> > DAPM integration for turning on/off outputs which might DTRT for you if
> > you do need it in kernel.

> Aren’t all the right events to userspace generated already by the
> codec calling snd_soc_jack_report?

I wasn't able to find any references to snd_soc_jack_report() in your
series?

> I looked at the existing DAPM integration but I couldn’t figure out
> how to switch the demux with it.

Yes, it won't do that.  If you can't stream the same audio to both then
you'd need something else.

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