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Date:   Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:34:24 -0600
From:   Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:     Prashant Malani <pmalani@...omium.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/7] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: anx7625: Add mode-switch
 support

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 01:54:36AM -0700, Prashant Malani wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 12:42 AM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@...omium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Quoting Prashant Malani (2022-06-15 10:20:20)
> > >
> > >  .../display/bridge/analogix,anx7625.yaml      | 64 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 64 insertions(+)
> >
> > Can this file get a link to the product brief[1]? It helps to quickly
> > find the block diagram.
> 
> Sure, but I don't really think that should be included in this patch
> (or series).
> I'd be happy to submit a separate patch once this series is resolved.
> 
> >
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/analogix,anx7625.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/analogix,anx7625.yaml
> > > index 35a48515836e..bc6f7644db31 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/analogix,anx7625.yaml
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/analogix,anx7625.yaml
> > > @@ -105,6 +105,34 @@ properties:
> > >        - port@0
> > >        - port@1
> > >
> > > +  switches:
> > > +    type: object
> > > +    description: Set of switches controlling DisplayPort traffic on
> > > +      outgoing RX/TX lanes to Type C ports.
> > > +    additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +    properties:
> > > +      '#address-cells':
> > > +        const: 1
> > > +
> > > +      '#size-cells':
> > > +        const: 0
> > > +
> > > +    patternProperties:
> > > +      '^switch@[01]$':
> > > +        $ref: /schemas/usb/typec-switch.yaml#
> > > +        unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +        properties:
> > > +          reg:
> > > +            maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +        required:
> > > +          - reg
> > > +
> > > +    required:
> > > +      - switch@0
> > > +
> > >  required:
> > >    - compatible
> > >    - reg
> > > @@ -167,5 +195,41 @@ examples:
> > >                      };
> > >                  };
> > >              };
> > > +            switches {
> >
> > Is "switches" a bus?
> 
> No.
> 
> >
> > > +                #address-cells = <1>;
> > > +                #size-cells = <0>;
> > > +                switch@0 {
> > > +                    compatible = "typec-switch";
> >
> > Is this compatible matched against a driver that's populated on this
> > "switches" bus?
> 
> No. Patch 6/7 has the implementation details on how the anx driver
> performs the enumeration of switches.
> 
> >
> > > +                    reg = <0>;
> > > +                    mode-switch;
> > > +
> > > +                    ports {
> > > +                        #address-cells = <1>;
> > > +                        #size-cells = <0>;
> > > +                        port@0 {
> > > +                            reg = <0>;
> > > +                            anx_typec0: endpoint {
> > > +                                remote-endpoint = <&typec_port0>;
> > > +                            };
> > > +                        };
> > > +                    };
> >
> > I was expecting to see these simply be more ports in the existing graph
> > binding of this device, and then have the 'mode-switch' or
> > 'orientation-switch' properties be at the same level as the compatible
> > string "analogix,anx7625". Here's the reasoning, based on looking at the
> > product brief and the existing binding/implementation.
> >
> > Looking at the only existing implementation of this binding upstream in
> > mt8183-kukui-jacuzzi.dtsi it looks like one of these typec ports is
> > actually the same physically as the 'anx7625_out' endpoint (reg address
> > of 1) that is already defined in the binding. It seems that MIPI DSI/DPI
> > comes in and is output through 2 lanes, SSRX2 and SSTX2 according to the
> > product brief[1], and that is connected to some eDP panel
> > ("auo,b116xw03"). Presumably that is the same as anx_typec1 in this
> > patch? I suspect the USB3.1 input is not connected on this board, and
> > thus the crosspoint switch is never used, nor the SSRX1/SSTX1 pins.
> >
> > The existing binding defines the MIPI DSI/DPI input as port0 and two of
> > the four lanes of output that is probably by default connected to the
> > "DisplayPort Transmitter" as port1 because that's how the crosspoint
> > switch comes out of reset. That leaves the USB3.1 input possibly needing
> > a port in the ports binding, and the other two lanes of output needing a
> > port in the ports binding to describe their connection to the downstream
> > device. And finally information about if the crosspoint switch needs to
> > be registered with the typec framework to do typec things, which can be
> > achieved by the presence of the 'mode-switch' property.
> >
> > On a board like kukui-jacuzzi these new properties and ports wouldn't be
> > specified, because what is there is already sufficient. If this chip is
> > connected to a usb-c-connector then I'd expect to see a connection from
> > the output ports in the graph binding to the connector node's ports.
> > There aren't any ports in the usb-c-connector binding though from what I
> > see.
> >
> > I believe there's also one more use case here where USB3.1 or MIPI
> > DSI/DPI is connected on the input side and this device is used to steer
> > USB3.1 or DP through the crosspoint switch to either of the two output
> > pairs. This last scenario means that we have to describe both output
> > pairs, SSRX1/SSTX1 and SSRX2/SSTX2, as different ports in the binding so
> > they can be connected to different usb-c-connectors if the hardware
> > engineer wired the output pins that way.
> >
> > TL;DR: Can we add 'mode-switch' as an optional property and two more
> > ports at address 2 and 3 for the USB3.1 input and the SSRX1/SSTX1 pair
> > respectively to the existing graph part of this binding?
> 
> Sorry, but I got lost midway through the preceding explanation. 

Made sense to me.

> The binding
> can always add additional ports to each "switch" to accomplish the
> graph connections
> you are alluding to (if the driver needs/uses it, which I don't think
> this one does at present).

Why is the switch special? If I just look at this from a block diagram 
perspective, I just see a list of interfaces that need to be described 
in the graph.

> Adding extra ports to existing ports gets tricky from a mode-switch
> enumeration perspective (which
> ports should have the modes switches, which shouldn't? Do you follow
> the remote end points for each port
> and see which one is a Type C connector? 

The driver knows which port is which because the binding has to define 
it. So you have to check 2 of them (SSRX1/SSTX1 and SSRX2/SSTX2) to find 
usb C connectors.

> What if we add an
> intermediate switch device in the future?)
> Having a dedicated "switch" binding makes this consistent and easy
> (port0 will always have the end-point for the switch).
> 
> While there may be more than 1 valid approach here, I believe the
> current one is appropriate.

To put it simply, if you want to define a generic binding, I want to see 
at least 2 users of it. What I really want to see is someone looking at 
all the Type-C related bindings and h/w possibilities, not just 1 
problem or their own h/w. IOW, a Type-C binding czar.

Rob

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