Message-ID: <98fa010d-3555-a82b-e960-f47aeeb38151@opensource.wdc.com>
Date:   Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:41:21 +0900
From:   Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@...nsource.wdc.com>
To:     John Garry <john.garry@...wei.com>,
        Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@....org>, axboe@...nel.dk,
        jejb@...ux.ibm.com, martin.petersen@...cle.com, brking@...ibm.com,
        hare@...e.de, hch@....de
Cc:     linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org,
        chenxiang66@...ilicon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] scsi: core: Implement reserved command
 handling

On 2022/06/16 17:24, John Garry wrote:
> On 16/06/2022 03:47, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>> so going backward several years... That internal tag for ATA does not
>>>> need to be reserved since this command is always used when the drive is
>>>> idle and no other NCQ commands are on-going.
>>>
>>> So do you mean that ATA_TAG_INTERNAL qc is used for other commands 
>>> apart from internal commands?
>>
>> No. It is used only for internal commands. What I meant to say is that 
>> currently, internal commands are issued only on device scan, device 
>> revalidate and error handling. All of these phases are done with the 
>> device under EH with the issuing path stopped and all commands 
>> completed, 
> 
> If I want to allocate a request for an ATA internal command then could I 
> use 1x from the regular tags? I didn't think that this was possible as I 
> thought that all tags may be outstanding when EH kicks in. I need to 
> double check it.

When EH kicks in, the drive is in error mode and all commands are back to the
host. From there, you need to get the drive out of error mode with read log 10h
and then internal commands can be issued if needed. Then the aborted commands
that are not in error are restarted.

For the non-error case (revalidate), ap->ops->qc_defer() will make sure that NCQ
and non-NCQ commands are never mixed. Since all internal commands are non-ncq,
when an internal command is issued, there are necessarily no other commands
ongoing, but 32 NCQ commands may be waiting, without any free tag. The internal
command being non-NCQ can still proceed since it does not need a real device tag.

The joy of ATA...

> Even if it were true, not using a reserved tag for ATA internal command 
> makes things more tricky as this command requires special handling for 
> scsi blk_mq_ops and there is no easy way to identify the command as 
> reserved (to know special handling is required).

Yes. Having the ATA_TAG_INTERNAL tag as a reserved tag is fine. But from the
above, you can see that this is not really needed at all to make things work.
The management of ATA_TAG_INTERNAL as a reserve tag is really about getting your
API to simplify the code.

What I am thinking is that with your patches as is, it seems that we can never
actually reserve a real tag for ATA to do internal NCQ commands... We do not
really need that for now though, apart maybe for speeding up device revalidate.
Everytime that one runs, one can see a big spike in read/write IO latencies
because of the queue drain it causes.

And for CDL 0xD policy error handling, I may need a reserved NCQ tag... Still
trying to work out qc/tag reuse for now though.

> 
>> so no regular commands can be issued. Only internal ones, non 
>> NCQ, using the ATA_TAG_INTERNAL. So strictly speaking, we should not 
>> need to reserve that internal tag at all.
>>
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

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