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Message-ID: <87letsw8en.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
Date:   Mon, 20 Jun 2022 01:23:04 +0206
From:   John Ogness <john.ogness@...utronix.de>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@...omium.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] printk: allow direct console printing to be enabled
 always

On 2022-06-19, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com> wrote:
> diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
> index c7900e8975f1..47466aa2b0e8 100644
> --- a/init/Kconfig
> +++ b/init/Kconfig

Sorry, I missed this in your v1. But I think this config belongs in
lib/Kconfig.debug under the "printk and dmesg options" menu.

> @@ -798,6 +798,18 @@ config PRINTK_INDEX
>  
>  	  There is no additional runtime cost to printk with this enabled.
>  
> +config PRINTK_DIRECT
> +	bool "Attempt to flush printk output immediately"
> +	depends on PRINTK
> +	help
> +	  Rather than using kthreads for printk output, always attempt to write
> +	  to the console immediately. This has performance implications, but
> +	  will result in a more faithful ordering and interleaving with other
> +	  processes writing to the console.
> +
> +	  Say N here unless you really need this. This may also be controlled
> +	  at boot time with printk.direct=0/1.
> +
>  #
>  # Architectures with an unreliable sched_clock() should select this:
>  #
> diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> index ea3dd55709e7..43f8a0074ed6 100644
> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> @@ -178,6 +178,14 @@ static int __init control_devkmsg(char *str)
>  }
>  __setup("printk.devkmsg=", control_devkmsg);
>  
> +static bool printk_direct = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PRINTK_DIRECT);

I understand why you would name the variable to match the boot arg. But
I would prefer the _internal_ variable had a name that makes it clear
(to us developers) that it is a permanent setting. Perhaps
printk_direct_only or printk_direct_always?

The reason is because when kthreads are active, direct printing is
turned on and off dynamically (using @printk_prefer_direct). And if this
new variable is named @printk_direct, one could easily mistake its
meaning to be related to the dynamic turning on and off.

> +
> +static int __init control_printk_direct(char *str)
> +{
> +	return kstrtobool(str, &printk_direct);
> +}
> +__setup("printk.direct=", control_printk_direct);
> +
>  char devkmsg_log_str[DEVKMSG_STR_MAX_SIZE] = "ratelimit";
>  #if defined(CONFIG_PRINTK) && defined(CONFIG_SYSCTL)
>  int devkmsg_sysctl_set_loglvl(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> @@ -3602,6 +3610,9 @@ static int __init printk_activate_kthreads(void)
>  {
>  	struct console *con;
>  
> +	if (printk_direct)

I'm wondering if we should output a message here. My suggestion is:

pr_info("printing threads disabled, using direct printing\n");

> +		return 0;
> +
>  	console_lock();
>  	printk_kthreads_available = true;
>  	for_each_console(con)

Otherwise it looks OK to me. But you may want to wait on a response from
Petr, Sergey, or Steven before sending a v3. You are adding a kernel
config and a boot argument. Both of these are sensitive topics that
require more feedback from others.

John Ogness

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